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May 21, 2020 18:12:29   #
marquina Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
adm wrote:
I went to mailbox today and received a card from "Outdoor Photographer." The card stated that they were converting to a digital format. The reason cited was the risk due to COVID-19. This is interesting, since all the evidence points to COVID risks from mail as being minimal. Furthermore, if the magazine were delivered in an envelope or plastic bag, the risks would be reduced to practically zero. I have a sense that there were other factors, namely costs, that were involved here. Interestingly, I was receiving "Outdoor Photographer" to fill out my subscription to "Shutterbug," another venerable paper photo publication that had folded. This is disappointing to say the least. Although I have no objection to sharing and viewing photographs digitally, I enjoy them in the traditional paper format as well. To my knowledge, this leaves only "Click" and "Lens Work" as the only existing paper format American photo magazines, assuming that they are not planning to switch to digital formats as well.
I went to mailbox today and received a card from &... (show quote)


Actually, the Black & White magazine is still in both print and electronic formats.

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May 21, 2020 19:15:50   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
adm wrote:
I went to mailbox today and received a card from "Outdoor Photographer." The card stated that they were converting to a digital format. The reason cited was the risk due to COVID-19. This is interesting, since all the evidence points to COVID risks from mail as being minimal. Furthermore, if the magazine were delivered in an envelope or plastic bag, the risks would be reduced to practically zero. I have a sense that there were other factors, namely costs, that were involved here. Interestingly, I was receiving "Outdoor Photographer" to fill out my subscription to "Shutterbug," another venerable paper photo publication that had folded. This is disappointing to say the least. Although I have no objection to sharing and viewing photographs digitally, I enjoy them in the traditional paper format as well. To my knowledge, this leaves only "Click" and "Lens Work" as the only existing paper format American photo magazines, assuming that they are not planning to switch to digital formats as well.
I went to mailbox today and received a card from &... (show quote)


The conversion to digital probably doesn't refer to you, the subscriber, but to various people involved in the production of the magazine and the impracticality of social distancing. I always thought "Outdoor Photography" was useless, due mostly to its obviously overly Photoshopped images featuring colors not known in nature.

Best wishes,
Alan <<<<

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May 21, 2020 20:27:36   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
User ID wrote:
So that makes print media cool ... no internet and no electricity ?

Well thaz just the part YOU see before your eyes. Print media uses internet and gobbs of electricity where you don’t see it, as well as asphalt, steel, diesel fuel and other toxic stuff ... to bring you a photo magazine loaded with pix mostly shot with digital cameras.

Print rags can finish dying tomorrow, or last week, and that will be none too soon.


“Methinks he reacted a bit too strongly.”

It was just a comment. I didn’t say or imply anything about “cool”. I meant that it does not require internet or electricity for reading print media. I guess I should have added “for reading in the daylight” to my reply. ;)

Personally I use both print and electronic. Each has some unique things to offer. However I find as time progresses I have tended to use the electronic versions more and more.

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May 21, 2020 20:27:59   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
hoola wrote:
Surprised(especially since most folx on this site are nature photographers) that no one brought up a big issue. That is : Digital is environmentally better/safer. Print publishing involves lots of ink & paper. I gave up reading a daily newspaper years ago for same reason . Besides which news on internet is free and up to the minute .

Expanding on this I also think that digital photography is far better for our environment then film photography was . No wasted water, no nasty chemicals, silver usage, plastic usage, etc. etc. Living proof of this is a toxic abandoned polluted nearly 200 acre site near me . Who was there ? Ciba Geigy . Makers of Cibachrome colour process .
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Thank you. Papermaking is an environmentally dirty industry.

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May 21, 2020 20:39:23   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Thank you. Papermaking is an environmentally dirty industry.


True, but only a fraction of the dirty quotient of many other industries.

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May 21, 2020 20:53:45   #
User ID
 
JD750 wrote:
“Methinks he reacted a bit too strongly.”

It was just a comment. I didn’t say or imply anything about “cool”. I meant that it does not require internet or electricity for reading print media. I guess I should have added “for reading in the daylight” to my reply. ;)

Personally I use both print and electronic. Each has some unique things to offer. However I find as time progresses I have tended to use the electronic versions more and more.


The coolest thing about reading digital text is that it’s searchable. I got really tired of keeping a finger or two in the paper index pages and two or more fingers tucked into whichever pages to which the index was referring me.

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May 21, 2020 20:55:01   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
User ID wrote:
So that makes print media cool ... no internet and no electricity ?

Well thaz just the part YOU see before your eyes. Print media uses internet and gobbs of electricity where you don’t see it, as well as asphalt, steel, diesel fuel and other toxic stuff ... to bring you a photo magazine loaded with pix mostly shot with digital cameras.

Print rags can finish dying tomorrow, or last week, and that will be none too soon.




I took 26 different magazines in the 1980s. I’m down to National Geographic and Consumer Reports. The rest of my information and entertainment is electronically presented. I like that so much better!

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May 21, 2020 20:56:58   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
User ID wrote:
The coolest thing about reading digital text is that it’s searchable. I got really tired of keeping a finger or two in the paper index pages and two or more fingers tucked into the pages to which the index was referring me.


Yes I like that. I also like being able to look up a word definition while reading.

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May 21, 2020 22:35:07   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
boberic wrote:
There is something special (magical) about holding, reading a book.. It just can not be replaced by a tablet I can't explain it. But it's true, and it can not be denied


I have never warmed up to digital books or magazines. I still get paper copies of car mags and still enjoy them. When they all go digital, I'm gone too. Nothing left but dangling electrons (instead of dangling participles).

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May 21, 2020 22:49:20   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
I have never warmed up to digital books or magazines. I still get paper copies of car mags and still enjoy them. When they all go digital, I'm gone too. Nothing left but dangling electrons (instead of dangling participles).


Naaah, dangling participles go everywhere!

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May 21, 2020 22:51:05   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
Yes I like that. I also like being able to look up a word definition while reading.


I would have loved that in college, reading 110 pages of ancient crap every night for Humanities!

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May 21, 2020 23:03:52   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
I would have loved that in college, reading 110 pages of ancient crap every night for Humanities!


Ha ha. Somewhere I have a yellow paged well used Dictionary that I used to keep nearby when reading.

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May 21, 2020 23:07:07   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
I would have loved that in college, reading 110 pages of ancient crap every night for Humanities!


Don't knock humanities, it kept me from getting kicked out. A steady diet of chemistry, math, German, physics, etc took such a toll on my QPA that the dean was threatening. I knocked off several easy A's in humanities and social sciences, rescued my QPA from infamy and soldiered on in a chemistry major. I was forever grateful for humanities.

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May 22, 2020 00:31:58   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
Don't knock humanities, it kept me from getting kicked out. A steady diet of chemistry, math, German, physics, etc took such a toll on my QPA that the dean was threatening. I knocked off several easy A's in humanities and social sciences, rescued my QPA from infamy and soldiered on in a chemistry major. I was forever grateful for humanities.


Don’t get me wrong, I loved Humanities. At Davidson, in 1973-1975, it was a two year, six trimester course, taught by 12 of the best ball-busting professors on campus. But the reading load was over the top. Modern digital tools would have been greatly appreciated!

I envy students there now. The entire campus is wired and wireless, every student has a computer, and learning is greatly accelerated.

The one computer we had on campus in 1973 was 0.1 times as fast as the first Apple II. Word processing didn’t exist.

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May 22, 2020 00:40:23   #
MDI Mainer
 
burkphoto wrote:
Don’t get me wrong, I loved Humanities. At Davidson, in 1973-1975, it was a two year, six trimester course, taught by 12 of the best ball-busting professors on campus. But the reading load was over the top. Modern digital tools would have been greatly appreciated!

I envy students there now. The entire campus is wired and wireless, every student has a computer, and learning is greatly accelerated.

The one computer we had on campus in 1973 was 0.1 times as fast as the first Apple II. Word processing didn’t exist.
Don’t get me wrong, I loved Humanities. At Davidso... (show quote)


Except the campus is now closed until God only knows when, so the envy might be running the other way!

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