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Multiple exposure artifact?
May 19, 2020 11:12:24   #
photodoc16
 
Ladies and Lads,
I shoot with a Canon 7D II. I have shot multiple exposures of 2 -3 exposures and have noticed that when I was shooting with JPEG and RAW, that the RAW image had a magenta hue. Now that I shoot only RAW, there is no JPEG available to see the image without this problem. Are there any ideas about why I am getting this discoloring and am I going to have to add a JPEG image to do multiples?
Thanks,
Photodoc16

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May 19, 2020 11:39:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Ladies and Lads,
I shoot with a Canon 7D II. I have shot multiple exposures of 2 -3 exposures and have noticed that when I was shooting with JPEG and RAW, that the RAW image had a magenta hue. Now that I shoot only RAW, there is no JPEG available to see the image without this problem. Are there any ideas about why I am getting this discoloring and am I going to have to add a JPEG image to do multiples?
Thanks,
Photodoc16


With raw, you can easily correct the color. If you have a consistent color cast in all light, then there could be something out of whack. You can either use a camera color profile, or send it in for adjustment.

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May 19, 2020 12:52:10   #
photodoc16
 
Gene51,
Any idea why this cast appears only with multiple exposures?
Thanks,
Photodoc16

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May 19, 2020 16:11:31   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Any idea why this cast appears only with multiple exposures?
Thanks,
Photodoc16


Can you clarify exactly what you are referring to as "multiple exposure"?

a) are you referring to a number of 'single' frames taken and each individually viewed in your Raw converter?

or

b) are you referring to a number of 'single' frames taken and stacked in camera using "multiple exposure" that produce 1 single frame that is then viewed in your Raw converter?

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May 19, 2020 19:13:01   #
photodoc16
 
Grahame,
I guess it was confusing and I should be severely chastised for my lack of clarity.
I am talking about 2-3 (or more) exposures per frame.
Photodoc16

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May 19, 2020 20:30:21   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Grahame,
I guess it was confusing and I should be severely chastised for my lack of clarity.
I am talking about 2-3 (or more) exposures per frame.
Photodoc16


Ok, thanks for that but it's still unclear.

When you are referring to "2-3 (or more) exposures per frame" am I correct in thinking you are doing this in camera and from the process producing one Raw file now, whereas before you were producing one Raw file and one jpeg. You were then comparing the Raw (rendered) with the jpeg in the same programme.

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May 19, 2020 23:22:14   #
photodoc16
 
Exactly correct.
Photodoc16

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May 20, 2020 04:56:18   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Exactly correct.
Photodoc16


Thanks for that and apologies for the questions to clarify matters.

Over the past week I have been undertaking extensive trialling taking 'multi exposures' to investigate noise reduction for night photos (not sky). This has been done in camera using both the 'Additive' and 'Average' modes in my Nikons Multi Exposure process. I also came across a magenta hue in the stacked single output Raw file.

For some reason I still shoot raw + jpeg and on now comparing the stacked/merged camera output jpegs and raws the raws have the cast and the jpegs don't. I was able to visually WB adjust this magenta cast on the stacked camera output in ACR.

But, moving further on with my testing I was also shooting multiple same exposure Raws to stack in Photoshop Stack mode and started getting some more weird magenta and green hue areas and splodges in the final merged image easily seen in the plain sky areas. Remember these are 'dark' images at night.

I eventually found that the picture profiles affected this and suspect the WB setting as well. I went from an in camera 'Standard' profile with ACR 'Camera Standard' profile to an in camera 'Neutral' profile with ACR 'Adobe Neutral' profile to reduce the hues and splodge to a minimum. In addition I set a camera WB at 5000K no tint.

Why this improved things I do not know but I do recall reading something some time back that for any merging or stacking it's best to use a 'Neutral' profile.

The above may give you some clues or is something totally different, good luck.

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May 20, 2020 08:08:58   #
photodoc16
 
Grahame,
Thanks for the info. In Elements, the ACR has no options for camera profiles so I will have to wait until I convert to PS and LR. In the meanwhile, I will use the RAW software from either DPP or Affinity to see what I can clean up. Good luck with your research. Stay safe.
Photodoc16

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May 21, 2020 19:49:36   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Grahame,
I guess it was confusing and I should be severely chastised for my lack of clarity.
I am talking about 2-3 (or more) exposures per frame.
Photodoc16


You should be more chastised for not attaching a sample image so we could see the problem.

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May 21, 2020 21:20:09   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
aellman wrote:
You should be more chastised for not attaching a sample image so we could see the problem.


But he gave a very understandable explanation of the "problem" ..........

photodoc16 wrote:
and have noticed that when I was shooting with JPEG and RAW, that the RAW image had a magenta hue.


......... and provided additional info and clarification when requested.


I'm sure that if a polite request had been made to the op with an explanation as to what information could be gathered from it he would also have obliged. You of course had that option but did not use it.

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