Touching 4-minute video/music tribute to Russian sub Kursk, lost with all 118 men
May 17, 2020 21:06:11 #
May 18, 2020 09:13:36 #
May 18, 2020 09:43:21 #
Many years ago coming out of a movie theater with an older friend, I expressed some sympathy with the submarine crew portrayed in the movie we had just watched, "Das Boot." His reply was ( I paraphrase) "Oh, I was kind of hoping they would all get Deep-sixed." He had fought the Wehrmacht in the Hurtgen Forest in WWII. While it is sad all the crew went down on the "Kursk", they would have been more than willing to push the button on us.
May 18, 2020 11:30:00 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
kvanhook wrote:
Wish I had a translation of the song. Thanks for posting.
discussion of back story and links to very rough translation:
http://reason.com/2020/05/17/russian-song-about-the-wreck-of-the-kursk/
May 18, 2020 12:36:53 #
St.Mary's wrote:
Many years ago coming out of a movie theater with an older friend, I expressed some sympathy with the submarine crew portrayed in the movie we had just watched, "Das Boot." His reply was ( I paraphrase) "Oh, I was kind of hoping they would all get Deep-sixed." He had fought the Wehrmacht in the Hurtgen Forest in WWII. While it is sad all the crew went down on the "Kursk", they would have been more than willing to push the button on us.
My grandfather fought on the German side in WW1, and WW2, and won two Iron Crosses for bravery. He did not only fight in one battle, but in hundreds of them during nine years of combat. Whenever he talked about the enemy he would only say "they were only soldiers like the rest of us, fighting for what they believed." I found this mindset common among German WW2 veterans I have personally known and interviewed. The "let's kill them all and let God sort them out" mentality was not part of their sentiments. I'm speaking of real German Veterans, not the Hollywood kind. As to the crew of the Kursk being "willing to push the button on us," that argument could be made to dehumanize anyone in any military. By the way, I'm a US Marine Corps veteran.
May 18, 2020 14:42:33 #
May 18, 2020 14:51:13 #
Reminds me of Ft. Bening where they sent me for jump school as part of Marine Corps Force Recon training.May 18, 2020 15:43:58 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
The late Adam Berg flew a navy dive bomber in the pacific, and helped sink a japanese battleship. after the war he went on a 'friendship tour' and was given a photo taken by a japanese pilot at the start of the pearl harbor attack. Berg told me, 'the japanese pilots were like us. we talked about our experiences and technical stuff about the planes and flying.' Berg walked with a limp: 'some jap got lucky when i dived on his ship...'
May 18, 2020 16:35:24 #
Adam Berg's attitude is one of a soldier fighting to defend his country, defend his fellow soldiers, and defend himself. This was what motivated Knights in the Age of Chivalry---- a more civilized period in human history--- not hatred for the enemy. Most of those who spout visceral hatred towards enemy soldiers are found among journalists, writing their politically correct posts from the safety of their office. They often infect those who do the fighting as well, depending on who they were to start with.
May 18, 2020 19:57:53 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
http://reproduktor.net/ddt/kapitan-kolesnikov/
A terrible tragedy.
May 19, 2020 00:42:23 #
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