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May 15, 2020 13:32:04   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The cameras/lenses involved:
Hasselblad 500c/cm
Zeiss 50mm f/4 Distagon
Phase One P20 back

Nikon D700
Nikon D800e
Nikon D850

Lens Nikkor 50mm f/1.4

Camera setting for White Balance:
Daylight

ISO - 200

Metering - Sekonic L768DR ambient light

Shutter - 1/30
Aperture - f/8

Each camera was placed on a tripod and photographed the same subject with the same center of view. In processing the Hasselblad image was cropped to match the same size as the Nikon images. The only adjustment in processing was to set WB to Daylight in ACR. No other adjustments were made all sliders set to 0

In PS the images were opened, resized, bordered, and reduced to 1440x960. Each image was then pasted into the final array, in some order.

The first array was shot with the Zeiss lens on the Hasselblad and the Nikkor lens on the Nikon bodies.

The second array was shot using the Zeiss lens used exclusively.

Now, can you determine which photo was done by which camera? Have fun.
--Bob

Array 1
Array 1...
(Download)

Array 2
Array 2...
(Download)

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May 15, 2020 13:49:13   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
~I've looked at these for a few minutes now, and will only guess on the first array:

Top L: Hasselblad w/Phase One P20 back

Top R: Nikon D850

Bottom L: Nikon D700

Bottom R: Nikon D800e

After the study, I honestly have no real clue! But, was fun guessing!!

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May 15, 2020 13:50:31   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
The darker more purply ones look the best to me in both arrays.

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May 15, 2020 13:53:52   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
That's what it would be, a guess. The cameras are intrinsically different and I would expect them to produce slightly different images. I don't have the skill and experience of a lot of folks on this forum so I am going to follow this post closely. I hope some of the responders give reasons for their choices, or is this really just a guessing game?

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May 15, 2020 14:02:59   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
That's what it would be, a guess. The cameras are intrinsically different and I would expect them to produce slightly different images. I don't have the skill and experience of a lot of folks on this forum so I am going to follow this post closely. I hope some of the responders give reasons for their choices, or is this really just a guessing game?


Well, really I should have given my reasoning, but I'm being lazy.. again! If pressed I could give reasons for my choice, but they would only be visual and by no means scientific. So, in reality, Ill stick with the Carnival-style fun!!

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May 15, 2020 14:20:37   #
User ID
 
Upon carefully scrutinizing the images I come to the obvious conclusion:

They’re all shot with one bridge camera and you faked the quiz pix in post.

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May 15, 2020 15:07:04   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
For those who responded to this moment, I'll definitely be posting the answers in a day or two.

I do want to thank each of you for stopping by. At this point, I can present the loser prise to User ID. Thanks for playing.
--Bob

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May 15, 2020 15:07:53   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
That was my thought when working with these this morning.
--Bob
Fotoartist wrote:
The darker more purply ones look the best to me in both arrays.

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May 15, 2020 20:00:00   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Can't wait for the answer. One looks so different than the other 3 in both groupings so I would guess the odd one would be the Hasselblad.

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May 15, 2020 22:12:57   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You're correct on that one, Jim.
--Bob
Jim-Pops wrote:
Can't wait for the answer. One looks so different than the other 3 in both groupings so I would guess the odd one would be the Hasselblad.

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May 15, 2020 22:56:32   #
User ID
 
rmalarz wrote:
For those who responded to this moment, I'll definitely be posting the answers in a day or two.

I do want to thank each of you for stopping by. At this point, I can present the loser prise to User ID. Thanks for playing.
--Bob


Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain ....

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May 16, 2020 08:17:33   #
SonyBug
 
rmalarz wrote:
The cameras/lenses involved:
Hasselblad 500c/cm
Zeiss 50mm f/4 Distagon
Phase One P20 back

Nikon D700
Nikon D800e
Nikon D850

Lens Nikkor 50mm f/1.4

Camera setting for White Balance:
Daylight

ISO - 200

Metering - Sekonic L768DR ambient light

Shutter - 1/30
Aperture - f/8

Each camera was placed on a tripod and photographed the same subject with the same center of view. In processing the Hasselblad image was cropped to match the same size as the Nikon images. The only adjustment in processing was to set WB to Daylight in ACR. No other adjustments were made all sliders set to 0

In PS the images were opened, resized, bordered, and reduced to 1440x960. Each image was then pasted into the final array, in some order.

The first array was shot with the Zeiss lens on the Hasselblad and the Nikkor lens on the Nikon bodies.

The second array was shot using the Zeiss lens used exclusively.

Now, can you determine which photo was done by which camera? Have fun.
--Bob
The cameras/lenses involved: br Hasselblad 500c/cm... (show quote)


The lower left one is the best in each panel to my eyes. So, I would pick the Hassy for that. The colors are not as muddy or blown in that one.

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May 16, 2020 10:01:41   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
"Christ, you know it ain't easy!" But in the first array, clockwise from top left, Hassy - D700 - D850 - D800e. Am I close?

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May 16, 2020 10:25:21   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
rmalarz wrote:
The cameras/lenses involved:
Hasselblad 500c/cm
Zeiss 50mm f/4 Distagon
Phase One P20 back

Nikon D700
Nikon D800e
Nikon D850

Lens Nikkor 50mm f/1.4

Camera setting for White Balance:
Daylight

ISO - 200

Metering - Sekonic L768DR ambient light

Shutter - 1/30
Aperture - f/8

Each camera was placed on a tripod and photographed the same subject with the same center of view. In processing the Hasselblad image was cropped to match the same size as the Nikon images. The only adjustment in processing was to set WB to Daylight in ACR. No other adjustments were made all sliders set to 0

In PS the images were opened, resized, bordered, and reduced to 1440x960. Each image was then pasted into the final array, in some order.

The first array was shot with the Zeiss lens on the Hasselblad and the Nikkor lens on the Nikon bodies.

The second array was shot using the Zeiss lens used exclusively.

Now, can you determine which photo was done by which camera? Have fun.
--Bob
The cameras/lenses involved: br Hasselblad 500c/cm... (show quote)

That's pretty dim light (about 5 stops darker than direct sunlight). There is no way to tell them apart based on their rendition other than that the top right image in #1 and lower left image in #2 look a little more pale so either they are the P20 images or the light changed. Direct sunlight would have been a better test.

Resizing each image to 1440x906 (1.3 MP) eliminates any possibility of comparing resolution. Even at 24MP it's almost impossible to tell a Nikon 50mm from a Hasselblad 50mm. I already showed this in A Hasselblad lens may be better than you think (2)

I suppose there is some point to this exercise but it doesn't make much sense.

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May 16, 2020 12:01:27   #
CLF Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rmalarz wrote:
The cameras/lenses involved:
Hasselblad 500c/cm
Zeiss 50mm f/4 Distagon
Phase One P20 back

Nikon D700
Nikon D800e
Nikon D850

Lens Nikkor 50mm f/1.4

Camera setting for White Balance:
Daylight

ISO - 200

Metering - Sekonic L768DR ambient light

Shutter - 1/30
Aperture - f/8

Each camera was placed on a tripod and photographed the same subject with the same center of view. In processing the Hasselblad image was cropped to match the same size as the Nikon images. The only adjustment in processing was to set WB to Daylight in ACR. No other adjustments were made all sliders set to 0

In PS the images were opened, resized, bordered, and reduced to 1440x960. Each image was then pasted into the final array, in some order.

The first array was shot with the Zeiss lens on the Hasselblad and the Nikkor lens on the Nikon bodies.

The second array was shot using the Zeiss lens used exclusively.

Now, can you determine which photo was done by which camera? Have fun.
--Bob
The cameras/lenses involved: br Hasselblad 500c/cm... (show quote)


Bob, no idea which is which. The photos all do look great.

Greg

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