PH CIB

I like it when Someone proves Me Wrong, as I learn Something...So I try to be open to Logic....Still when that High Velocity Bullet with so many pounds of impact force and energy hits the back of the hard skull the head should be rocked forwards not backwards, if the expansion in the cranium happens right after that causing the head to rock backwards it would only happen after a shot from behind first rocking the head forwards, that is not what happens in the Zapruder Tape....I for One think that Long Ago, We Lost Our Country to Criminals, Someday I would like to see We the People take Our Country Back.....

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

The SS idea has been around awhile.

It’s the only one that explains one round going through the governor intact and another frangible round exploded inside Kennedy’s head.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

this expanded pressure of the bullet and the fact it was probably a lead-core hunting round rather than the full metal military round as the one that penetrated 2 people answer is the same one that explanes the blown out windows on the towers that people think are demolition bombs - those 100's of tons of falling upper floors generated soooooo much compression on the spaces below them.

PH CIB

But how does that explain Building 7 which came down at free fall speed in a nice neat little pile, while it was never hit by an Airplane and only had small fires...watch the Colorado PBS Special of Concerned Architects, Engineers and Scientists on 9/11, most with PHD's and some with Evidence that has stood up in the Scientific Papers to Peer Review, they all conclude the Twin Towers and Building Number 7 came down due to Controlled Demolition, which opens up a whole new Can of Worms....

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Sorry - the conspiracy idea and these supposed research does not fly with me as I watched too many demolitions - been involved in use of explosives in Silver Mines and demolition of rock formations for construction and was a very close friend of a first responder from Philli who went there on 9/11. read and believe the BS if you want - I'll stick with my opinion

JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ

Any theory based on the building coming down "at free-fall speed" is nonsense. Watch any video of any of the WTC towers falling, and you can see debris coming off the building --- and falling faster than the building itself.

pendennis

The ammunition Owald used was full metal jacket (FMJ) military surplus ammo, not a hunting round. As such, the projectile would not expand. The only thing the projectile could do was shatter when it hit a bone. The FMJ military round construction is completely different than that of a soft point hunting round, in that the FMJ round has an exposed lead base, and hunting rounds have an exposed bullet nose. It has a cannelure to facilitate crimping in the case. The FMJ bullets also badly over-penetrate, as much as 3-4 feet in wood.

The original 6.5mm Carcano round complied with the Hague convention of 1899 which banned hollow-point, "dum dum", and lead point projectiles. As such, there's virtually no expansion. Damage is almost always done by fragmentation of the projectile against bone.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

This is a good explanation of the FMJ bullet found after it had penetrated 2 people- however the round that left fragments in his scull and brain cavity most likely came from a reloaded/salvaged cartage with the lead core hunting round- reloads are quite available around gun ranges . Anyone doing much shooting is always looking for the cheaper ammunition - reloads are cheap.

Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State

Maybe common and cheap, but I would not and have never fired a reload that I had not reloaded myself, and I have fired a lot of reloads. It is an unsafe practice to fire reloads you know nothing about.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

What explains the explosions in the basement that injured several firemen, that news footage shows as the firemen are asking what the hell was that, many minutes prior to the collapse and what explains the molten metal pouring out of holes in the corners of the towers several floors below the burning floors, as shown by news helicopter footage, many minutes prior to the collapse.?

Also how is it there was supposedly enough fire to melt the structure to cause it to collapse, yet most of the fuel on the jets that hit, went straight through and out the other side, hence the huge balls of flame seen existing the other side of the building? Plus the fact that jet fuel burns at a much, much lower total temperature than the heat that would need to be generated to actually melt the specially hardened steel that the central core of the building was constructed of.

Kind of like putting your butter knife in the flames from your gas stove and expecting to be able to melt it. It can be there all day and that knife will simply get red hot but not melt. Also, as the jet fuel burns off, there is not left to continue that heat, so any residual burning would be from all combustible components of material used to build the offices and building that was on fire. Again nothing burning so hot that it could melt that hardened steel core, which was the real support of the structure, with the outside materials just being cladding and finishing to the building. Maybe you can let us know your thoughts or opinions on those facts?

Another to contemplate is the white smoke trail seen in video footage from the car park security camera, across from the pentagon which ABC aired originally, that showed something speeding at a level altitude just above the ground as it hit and exploded on the wall, frame by frame, all that could be seen was a white smoke trail, no giant aircraft. A jet would not be able to travel like that nor at that height above the ground (far too low in the footage for a passenger jet) due to the terrain that would have been in front of it, such as trees and light poles etc. Plus the small hole shown in the original photos from the marines on site, showing the small impact hole, prior to the top of the building collapsing which then left a sort of overall V-shape, which the one shown by most news agencies.

Plus the lack of evidence of wing marks or engine marks on the building to the sides of the impact hole (that was a large jet that was supposed to have hit) in the first photos of the damage prior to the collapse of the top row of the building. And there has never been any photo of the jet approaching or impacting, released from footage of security cameras that would have been around the pentagon. Take a look at the French site "Hunt the Boeing" to see some of those early and later in the day photos. Some interesting questions posed.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Regarding Kennedy, if the SS accidental shooting was true, since the person was behind and just above the head of Kennedy, since he was seated in the front car, would there not be evidence of the bullet hitting the windscreen or other part of the car's dashboard? It could not have gone above the windscreen due to the angle of a person standing, or even being seated in a following car, for that matter. Am I the only one who has considered this, because no one else seems to have mentioned this? So many questions.

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I managed to find the site here.. https://www.realnews247.com/hunt_the_boeing.htm

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Your post is so filled with false/conspiracy sh#$t- instead of facts there is no need to discus any thing with you.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

I am not speaking of theories, I am speaking of actual footage you can easily find on YouTube? News footage and actual photos I'm speaking of, not someone's theory. Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger.

Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State

Great or notable people don't just die or are murdered, they have to be victims of a conspiracy. A single assassin cannot just murder a great sports figure, a movie star, a president or a candidate for the presidency. Any evidence that they can has to be manufactured or altered in some way. That's just the way it is, always ask questions then disbelieve the answer.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Most all of that footage has been sped up, slowed down and edited over the years it's hard to find original footage - the conspiracy folks have left out all the facts leading up to 9-11. The years these fellows planed and trained for it - the lives of the flight attendts that were lost during the take over of the planes - the flight that crashed before getting to NY because the passengers revolted and were taking action-go back to that day's news and footage not this adulterated BS- there was no melting metal - plastic and rubber - yes - the metal got heated to a bending point allowing the structure to collapse - which it did - #7 fell because of damage to the lower portion from falling debris which is shown on some film.- easily skipped by some jerks. The Pentagon "WAS" hit by one of those planes - witnesses and footage saw it and show it- the gathered parts and part numbers show which plane it was - the rest is BS.