jaymatt wrote:
I have never believed the Warren Report. I’ll let it go at that.
The shooter/shooters got Kennedy and we got Johnson--our loss.
The CRA was enacted under Johnson.
Potoartist is spot on. Suggest a good read “Mortal Error” by Bonar Menninger that convincingly lays out what actually happened. Truly a tragic mistake that was covered up.
Dang, haven't ya'll watched that NOVA program on this. All explained. No conspiracy. Just science and physics.
there was another explanation by a investigator from australia , one shot came from a secret service car following the president .the secret service guys carry a rifle on the floor of the car , when they heard the first shot , one of the guy [ named in the story ] , grabbed the rifle , lost his balance while standing up , the gun fired one shot , that one hit the president .after the incident , there was a cover up .if you can find this report on tv , it was fascinating .
olemikey
Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
I always leave a spent round in my gun chambers....life long habit.
sr71
Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
olemikey wrote:
I always leave a spent round in my gun chambers....life long habit.
If you left a spent round in the chamber I would not want to fire the next round.
Fotoartist wrote:
OK. I've been studying this since it happened. I have heard a lot of theories. But only one is a clean novel theory. In fact, this is only theory that fits every fact of the story including the reference you made to the discrepancy in bullets.
Paraphrasing an old theory, the correct answer is often the simplest. I will just state the bottom line of that theory here without going into the supporting evidence which is voluminous. Oswald did hit Kennedy, but in the neck only. It wasn’t fatal. The fatal shot was from the Secret Serviceman’s rifle in the car behind Kennedy. That’s how the bullet tore his head apart. It wasn’t intentional. It was a mistake. The agent was standing up and when the cars accelerated after Oswalds shot, he fell back and discharged a round freakishly into the back of Kennedy’s head.
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to the exclusion of all doubt that the fatal shot came from Oswald's rifle. Off the top of my head, I do not recall name of the metallurgical test that was used, which did not exist in 1963. Have you studied Reclaiming History by Vincent Bugliosi? It is a massive work but if this is a subject of interest to you, it is well worth reading.
Here we are 57 years out from Oswald killing Kennedy. And we are still getting this bs on the killing. We don't want to belive that one person plan and kill Kennedy. We belive that one person can plan and do something for good, but not evil.
olemikey
Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
sr71 wrote:
If you left a spent round in the chamber I would not want to fire the next round.
Why? Never an issue here. Oh, I get it!
rightofattila wrote:
I recently watched a show about the Kennedy assassination and while I'm not a big conspiracy buff, a couple of things bother me. (1.) They found 3 shell casings on the floor and assume he fired 3 times. (2 casings fairly close together and 1 some distance away) Does this mean he fired 3 times? Not necessarily. There could have been a shell casing in the rifle from the last time he fired it prior to November 22. This could explain why one casing was some distance from the other 2. I would like to know what was in the chamber when they found the rifle. (A) a spent round casing (unlikely) (B) another live round (C) nothing (2.) The bullet that struck Kennedy and Connelly (the single bullet theory) went through Kennedy's back and neck, broke a rib in Connelly, shattered Connelly's wrist bone, and went into Connelly's leg was largely intact when it fell out of Connelly's leg onto a gurney at the hospital. It is only slightly deformed. The bullet that hit Kennedy in the head literally exploded on impact. (You can even see the explosion on the Zapruder film) Witnesses who were present at the autopsy say the x-rays showed numerous small fragments in Kennedy's brain. These are clearly 2 different types of bullets. Would Oswald, who was somewhat of a cheapskate and perpetually short of money, have purchased 2 different types of ammunition? And even if he had, why would you load different types of ammo into a magazine?
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You are taking the official report as accurate. Oswald WAS a "patsy" in the coverup report. Kennedy was certainly killed to prevent opposition to world government takeover. Jack Kennedy was governing as a conservative (democrat) and that was not what was the leftist plan for the country. The 50 year period is well over and ALL documents should be opened to the public.
Soul Dr.
Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
The Mafia had Kennedy killed, is another theory that I have delved into.
But, all theories that I have read about show no conclusive facts to validate them.
Will
1Feathercrest wrote:
You are taking the official report as accurate. Oswald WAS a "patsy" in the coverup report. Kennedy was certainly killed to prevent opposition to world government takeover. Jack Kennedy was governing as a conservative (democrat) and that was not what was the leftist plan for the country. The 50 year period is well over and ALL documents should be opened to the public.
The one thing I know is, that JFK was the last Democrat who cared for his country. The theory’s will go on forever.
1Feathercrest wrote:
You are taking the official report as accurate. Oswald WAS a "patsy" in the coverup report. Kennedy was certainly killed to prevent opposition to world government takeover. Jack Kennedy was governing as a conservative (democrat) and that was not what was the leftist plan for the country. The 50 year period is well over and ALL documents should be opened to the public.
Much as people would like to believe that Kennedy was a conservative, he was a Statist, and wanted to "export Democracy". He had no intention of pulling out of Viet Nam, and had increased the military budget before he died to enable an expansion of military aid. He badly handled the Bay of Pigs, losing heart at the last minute and consigning Cuban rebels to death.
Johnson was also a Statist because he expanded the conflict based on the thinnest of incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin.
JFK and LBJ only continued the policies of Truman.
Nothing can be kept secret unless it is between only 2 people and one is dead. Eventually the true comes out. Coverups do not stand the test of time . They just make interesting discussions. Flat earth, trip to the moon, who shot JFK?
2Dragons wrote:
Whoa! I've never heard that version before. If it's true, I certainly wouldn't want to have been that SS man and live with that the rest of my life.
All the evidence fits this theory. The Secret Service was a band of brothers. The previous night they had pulled an all nighter partying. They probably weren't at their sharpest. Think about the aftermath in Parkland Hosp. and how the Secret Service were hovering in the autopsy room policing the situation with a lot of irregularities going on in there. And the missing evidence including Kennedy's brain and the bullet.
I think we will learn the truth someday. I know the agent with the rifle that day has already died and no one ever conducted a tough interview with him.
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