Who wants one of these?
May 9, 2020 23:20:09 #
A Nikon F, Canon F or Pentax or any other make 35mm SLR fully manual without electrical or electronic components except for a 35mm size sensor replacing the film back. Keep the shutter cocking mechanism for the focal plane shutter. The shutter button will also have to stop down the aperture on half press. Manual focus only.
The sensor obviously will have to be on a PC board and will have a connection to a dial control for choosing ISO – NO auto setting permitted! Output from the sensor will be RAW only direct to an SD card. (2 slots permitted) No LCD for preview – wait until you get home and can download to your PC !
I’d like one – IF I could afford it that is!
The sensor obviously will have to be on a PC board and will have a connection to a dial control for choosing ISO – NO auto setting permitted! Output from the sensor will be RAW only direct to an SD card. (2 slots permitted) No LCD for preview – wait until you get home and can download to your PC !
I’d like one – IF I could afford it that is!
May 9, 2020 23:40:29 #
Not me.
I can't see a benefit to acquiring anything to use that is not as versatile as I have now. Unless, it was a limited edition that I considered worth purchasing and keeping in a box and being sure it would make me money as an investment.
I can't see a benefit to acquiring anything to use that is not as versatile as I have now. Unless, it was a limited edition that I considered worth purchasing and keeping in a box and being sure it would make me money as an investment.
May 9, 2020 23:48:56 #
The Nikon Df is most likely as close to what you described as you will ever find. The sales of this model was not as good as Nikon had hoped so don't look for another retro camera anytime soon.
May 10, 2020 00:06:59 #
Bridges wrote:
The Nikon Df is most likely as close to what you described as you will ever find. The sales of this model was not as good as Nikon had hoped so don't look for another retro camera anytime soon.
Would you please tell me why the sales of the Nikon Df were not so good? What are you asking for the Nikon?
May 10, 2020 00:37:21 #
Bridges wrote:
The Nikon Df is most likely as close to what you described as you will ever find. The sales of this model was not as good as Nikon had hoped so don't look for another retro camera anytime soon.
Yeah, the Df comes close to what he wants.
In the mid-1990s, that was the dream. Now, meh. We have come so far beyond that dream, first executed in crude form by Kodak.
I have a Nikon FTn about a foot from my right knee as I write this. I have not used it since December, 2004. I keep it as a conversation piece, because I'm so in love with digital imaging, I can't bear to use film in a camera. I DO digitize a lot of film these days, macro-photographing it with my Lumix GH4. It's a way to take the 20th century into the future.
May 10, 2020 01:40:32 #
Horatio wrote:
Would you please tell me why the sales of the Nikon Df were not so good? What are you asking for the Nikon?
I think because most people that embrace digital photography want to move forward not backward. There will always be some people who want to delve in traditional rather than contemporary. I know I like steam locomotives more than diesel. Recently I loaded a roll of film in a camera that is probably 50 years old and am playing around with taking some shots with it. I can appreciate the desire for older technology but I also embrace the latest technology. Check out the Df. It wasn't a commercial success for Nikon but there are still plenty of them in the used/referbed market.
May 10, 2020 02:07:54 #
For a long time I was a huge fan of the Leica M3 and still have two of them and a collection of lenses filters etc.
One of them is still almost like new as I only used it a few times.
But once I got hooked on digital imaging, I packed them up and they were put away in moisture absorbing wrap in the top of a cupboard.
I was told to get them valued for an insurance renewal some years ago and was pleasantly surprised at the possible value, but they were rewrapped and put away again and I happily continued to use a D300s.
Not so long ago a subject cropped up here on UHH that prompted me to have another look at them. Am still in love, but like maybe with an old girl friend, am not really keen to take on the hassle of the conflict that would arise if I took one seriously again.
So like burkphoto, I have the most used one sitting on my desk to remind me of what was, but is no more.
Today even a Leica M3 cant replace my Panny LX100 supported by a D7100.
The fickle finger of love
One of them is still almost like new as I only used it a few times.
But once I got hooked on digital imaging, I packed them up and they were put away in moisture absorbing wrap in the top of a cupboard.
I was told to get them valued for an insurance renewal some years ago and was pleasantly surprised at the possible value, but they were rewrapped and put away again and I happily continued to use a D300s.
Not so long ago a subject cropped up here on UHH that prompted me to have another look at them. Am still in love, but like maybe with an old girl friend, am not really keen to take on the hassle of the conflict that would arise if I took one seriously again.
So like burkphoto, I have the most used one sitting on my desk to remind me of what was, but is no more.
Today even a Leica M3 cant replace my Panny LX100 supported by a D7100.
The fickle finger of love
May 10, 2020 03:49:54 #
JohnR wrote:
A Nikon F, Canon F or Pentax or any other make 35m... (show quote)
Leica has such a camera ... a digitized MLeica lacking even a playback screen.
It differs from the film version only in using a Copal shutter. Sales are dismal.
May 10, 2020 06:41:59 #
May 10, 2020 06:46:43 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
JohnR wrote:
A Nikon F, Canon F or Pentax or any other make 35m... (show quote)
I do action photography, manual focusing systems OUT for me. And my old Nikon's would also have to have a motor drive and even then the top speed was SLOW in comparison to my D5. Thanks, but going back in time is not an option for me.
May 10, 2020 07:30:32 #
The Pentax K-1000 had everything at your fingertips and the adjust seen in eye view. Exposure was seen with a needle showing center and + -. ISO required looking at the dial and turning to the desired number. The focus was manual and you would rock back and forth to select what was in focus, foreground vs background. Quick and foolproof [?], with nimble fingers. The photographer was in command totally.
My first "PreProgamed" camera was a Minolta i7000. I never forgave it when I missed a shot while laying in ice-cold water looking up at the sun at the edge of a waterfall with a huge root wad in the stream. I lost that brief of-the-moment shot arguing with the menu which was difficult to see in the bright light.
My first "PreProgamed" camera was a Minolta i7000. I never forgave it when I missed a shot while laying in ice-cold water looking up at the sun at the edge of a waterfall with a huge root wad in the stream. I lost that brief of-the-moment shot arguing with the menu which was difficult to see in the bright light.
May 10, 2020 07:45:18 #
I would not buy such a camera. However, it seems to me, if that is what you want every enthusiast camera can do what you want. Set it to manual exposure, manual focus and turn off the LCD display and shoot just like you did in the 60's. Personally, I would rather embrace technology and use it to get the best images I can while out in the field. That includes using highlight and shadow alerts in real time on my Olympus, periodically checking results, using techniques that simply were not possible in the 60s and 70s and certainly auto focus and exposure as starting points.
May 10, 2020 08:36:38 #
For a variety of reasons, I use my D7100 and D300 in fully manual settings. But I would not want to purchase something now that did not have all of the frills and technical advances these cameras possess. It is all about flexibility: If I do want to use the advanced settings and such, it is there at my fingertips. Having the options means I am not completely painted into a corner, either way.
May 10, 2020 08:44:08 #
JohnR wrote:
A Nikon F, Canon F or Pentax or any other make 35m... (show quote)
But you can't afford it and they can't make it nice looking enough. I estimate making something like that the manufacturer will have to sell for around $6000 to $10,000 to make money at all.
Nikon could make money with the Df selling for $3000 because they included LCD, auto ISO, Liveview, A,S and P mode. If they takes those features out they will have to increase the price to make money.
May 10, 2020 08:48:48 #
To me it’s not about embracing old vs. new technology. Both digital and film have a place. One is not necessarily better than the other. Digital is more expedient. Film is more of a process. Shooting with an M6 is not like shooting a 5Dmiv or a D850. I’m more connected to what I need to do with a film camera because I generally have to do more to get to the final image. And, the look of film is different than digital even when film is scanned. I like both but do admit that 90% of the time I shoot digital. Don’t give up on film. It’s been having a bit of resurgence. Btw, I was recently surprised to see KEH offer up to 3x more for a LN- F4 or F5 than a D3s.
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