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May 8, 2020 15:07:56   #
cygone Loc: Boston
 
I viewed a YouTube video (since forgotten who) about practicing street photography by taking screen shots and editing from 360 degree street views in Google maps. If you're capturing from 360 degree views and then editing, is that still Google property? Can Metadata be removed from those pictures? I just wonder about the ethics of it.

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May 8, 2020 15:21:07   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
cygone wrote:
I viewed a YouTube video (since forgotten who) about practicing street photography by taking screen shots and editing from 360 degree street views in Google maps. If you're capturing from 360 degree views and then editing, is that still Google property? Can Metadata be removed from those pictures? I just wonder about the ethics of it.


I would say yes it would still belong to google, and I think it would be unethical.
Best to ask a copyright attorney.

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May 8, 2020 15:31:11   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Post your results, so we all can freely download and edit and call it our own. We look forward to your link. TIA.

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May 8, 2020 15:38:40   #
cygone Loc: Boston
 
Of course. I would expect nothing less from you

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May 8, 2020 15:41:19   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
cygone wrote:
I viewed a YouTube video (since forgotten who) about practicing street photography by taking screen shots and editing from 360 degree street views in Google maps. If you're capturing from 360 degree views and then editing, is that still Google property? Can Metadata be removed from those pictures? I just wonder about the ethics of it.


Maybe take a read of the Google TOS for Google maps?

Here is a thought, Google paid to have those pictures taken for use in the Google Maps program. If you are going to use the images commercially, re-publish them, or profit from the use of those photos then you are leaving yourself open to being sued. However if it is for your own private use, it doesn’t matter.

It’s unethical to create from another’s work and not credit them.

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May 8, 2020 17:10:10   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
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It’s unethical to create from another’s work and not credit them.


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May 8, 2020 17:22:54   #
cygone Loc: Boston
 
JD750 wrote:
Maybe take a read of the Google TOS for Google maps?

Here is a thought, Google paid to have those pictures taken for use in the Google Maps program. If you are going to use the images commercially, re-publish them, or profit from the use of those photos then you are leaving yourself open to being sued. However if it is for your own private use, it doesn’t matter.

It’s unethical to create from another’s work and not credit them.


Makes sense. My interest was the YouTube's point of view which was practicing Street Photography during quatantine where photographers were locked in rather than out on the street. I tried to edit some of the 'captures' (I've been calling them 'captures' to distinguish from 'shots' from the beginning) and the colors seem wanting.

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May 8, 2020 17:25:27   #
cygone Loc: Boston
 
Someone called this the future of photography where someone could rent a satellite (which is possible today) and photograph from home. I just found the idea inter9

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May 8, 2020 17:37:37   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Perhaps there are two considerations. One is legal and the other is ethical. And, both change depending on your purpose. Are you selling prints? Hanging in a gallery? Or just making something to put on the wall above your desk?

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May 8, 2020 18:11:09   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
I recall seeing a photo exhibit at a museum in Santa Barbara, CA that was entirely prints of screenshots from Google maps - when I asked the docent giving the tour if that was "photography" or merely "editing" of a series of images, no different than what an editor at National Geographic would do when a shooter submits 500 photos for a story, her response was complete gobbledygook. I cannot find the "artist's" name now, but in seeking that found this article from 8 years back - when the same thing was apparently discussed:

https://petapixel.com/2012/07/27/street-view-screenshots-photography-or-plagiarism/

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May 8, 2020 18:55:00   #
cygone Loc: Boston
 
f8lee wrote:
I recall seeing a photo exhibit at a museum in Santa Barbara, CA that was entirely prints of screenshots from Google maps - when I asked the docent giving the tour if that was "photography" or merely "editing" of a series of images, no different than what an editor at National Geographic would do when a shooter submits 500 photos for a story, her response was complete gobbledygook. I cannot find the "artist's" name now, but in seeking that found this article from 8 years back - when the same thing was apparently discussed:

https://petapixel.com/2012/07/27/street-view-screenshots-photography-or-plagiarism/
I recall seeing a photo exhibit at a museum in San... (show quote)


Thanks for this. It's exactly what I'm looking for.

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May 8, 2020 19:09:16   #
FreddB Loc: PA - Delaware County
 
bsprague wrote:
Perhaps there are two considerations. One is legal and the other is ethical. And, both change depending on your purpose. Are you selling prints? Hanging in a gallery? Or just making something to put on the wall above your desk?


My interpretation - none of the above. He's using them to practice his street photography PP.
If you can't go to the street, bring the street to you.

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May 9, 2020 09:41:01   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
That's a great idea!!! Nothing like using some else's work and claiming it to be your masterpiece.

I have the same exalted opinion of those who fall in love with products like Arsenal and Luminar to shortcut their way to producing a photograph.
--Bob
cygone wrote:
I viewed a YouTube video (since forgotten who) about practicing street photography by taking screen shots and editing from 360 degree street views in Google maps. If you're capturing from 360 degree views and then editing, is that still Google property? Can Metadata be removed from those pictures? I just wonder about the ethics of it.

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May 9, 2020 09:50:10   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
It’s interested me what process is used to selectively blur peoples faces and house address numbers but not faces and numbers in ads, signs and such. I pictured Google hiring thousands of people to examine every street view frame and using little blurring wands to scramble the pixels of people’s faces and house addresses. Realistically though, I’m sure the AI coding would be just as fantastic to be so discriminating.

Stan

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May 9, 2020 10:33:54   #
sabfish
 
JD750 wrote:
Maybe take a read of the Google TOS for Google maps?

Here is a thought, Google paid to have those pictures taken for use in the Google Maps program. If you are going to use the images commercially, re-publish them, or profit from the use of those photos then you are leaving yourself open to being sued. However if it is for your own private use, it doesn’t matter.

It’s unethical to create from another’s work and not credit them.


I am an attorney, although not an intellectual property expert. I believe JD750 has properly stated the standard. If you are using the images to practice on your computer it is considered a fair use, and does not expose you to any liability.

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