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May 5, 2020 19:40:02   #
Mark1948
 
Like others I've been using my downtime to improve my PP skills.

Q1; I recently posted a few pics 2x to the gallery hoping for CD. Well although i can find both posts under my name on UHH, neither post appeared. Wondering what I did wrong. Is it ok if I try to repost the same pics?

Q2; I typically stick to landscapes, occasionally doing a few portraits or candid people pics. Lately, withe the help of Meunch & Co., I've gained a pretty good basic understanding of Lightroom. PS looks like a pretty steep learning curve with little gain given the type of pics I'm doing. Still more recently I've been looking at Luminar. I've reviewed their sales stuff & some of the posts here. Wondering if others have more recent experience. I'd especially like to hear from anyone who switched from Lightroom to Luminar.

Well that's it for now. Stay safe, healthy & thanks for a great site.

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May 5, 2020 19:48:04   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You can click your own name that is a URL linking to your profile. There you can obtain a list of all your topics created. Whenever you create a topic, that post will also appear in the view "My Topics" at the top of the page as well as the "Watched Topics" list. Your past several topics I reviewed all contain images, so I'm unsure of your Q1 topic.

Regarding Q2, again unsure of the question. Do you subscribe to Adobe now? You've asked some LR questions in the past, where those based on an older software purchase or a recent LR/PS subscription. Do you feel the subscription is not worth the cost? or something else?

Regardless of software being used, what specific areas are you looking to improve? Do you have specific examples of known issues / other? Have you subscribed to the Post Processing section, https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html ?

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May 5, 2020 20:08:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
The posts are newest at the top.
Each new post in a category bumps the previous post down one.
If 20 people post in that category after you, your post could wind up on page two of that category's post list.
In addition, the threads are sorted by date of last post, not the date of first post.

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May 5, 2020 20:16:06   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Question 1 refers to the mistaken impression that the emailed daily digest is the UHH. It's merely a sampling. With the busy Photo Gallery, there can be 100 topics posted every day, but there is only space for 35 in the digest.

Use "newest topics" link at the top of any page to see all (or "newest photos" for quick thumbnail views). Unfortunately, many people do use only the digest so if you didn't make it in, you're invisible to them

Additionally, there are 30+ volunteer-moderated sections. See "all sections" at the bottom of this page. Try "For Your Consideration" for critique. There is a critique forum too, but it's missing its managers. Landscape Forum encourages feedback, especially if you request it.

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May 5, 2020 20:16:22   #
Mark1948
 
Thanks & yes I too see my topics/posts & a few coments i hadn't seen before. I guess i was hoping for more input on how i might have done better. Is there a rule about trying again?

I now have the Adobe subscription to LR & PS. I'm trying to decide which way to go.

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May 5, 2020 20:18:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mark1948 wrote:
Thanks & yes I too see my topics/posts & a few coments i hadn't seen before. I guess i was hoping for more input on how i might have done better. Is there a rule about trying again?

I now have the Adobe subscription to LR & PS. I'm trying to decide which way to go.


No rule, but there are some here that may "remind" you that you posted it prior.
You just need thick skin and to ignore some people.
Maybe say "posting again for more answers......"?

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May 5, 2020 20:19:42   #
Mark1948
 
Thanks

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May 5, 2020 20:20:19   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Question 1 refers to the mistaken impression that the emailed daily digest is the UHH. It's merely a sampling. With the busy Photo Gallery, there can be 100 topics posted every day, but there is only space for 35 in the digest.

Use "newest topics" link at the top of any page to see all (or "newest photos" for quick thumbnail views). Unfortunately, many people do use only the digest so if you didn't make it in, you're invisible to them

Additionally, there are 30+ volunteer-moderated sections. See "all sections" at the bottom of this page. Try "For Your Consideration" for critique. There is a critique forum too, but it's missing its managers. Landscape Forum encourages feedback, especially if you request it.

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May 5, 2020 20:20:46   #
Mark1948
 
Thanks, good to know

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May 5, 2020 20:35:52   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
Several factors --which Linda who sez she's originally from Maine (and/or others)-- may likely point out the factors that will/can affect your viewing experience of posts you've posted. Rather than going into those....

CHG CANON (aka 'Paul') addressed (potentially, some of) your Q2 concerns rightly and generally, but nested in your question is the 'is this software better than that other' that often gets questioned and/or touted. Along those lines, the so-called 'learning curve' that appears to be feared by some and a concern to others should really be moot; learning how to do whatever it is you want to do will inevitably take time and practice, regardless the task and regardless the software. Each of the major applications can accomplish virtually anything you can conceive of doing, but none of them will make your decisions for you. Only you can do that. And while Ps may have far more capability than you'll ever want or need to utilize, it --like any raster editor-- will be necessary at times, and its only a matter of learning those (potentially) few techniques that makes your (or anyone's) workflow a matter of rote or simplicity.

Not to take anything away from the 'Post Processing' sub-forum, but it appears that section is more concerned with doing/learning 'tricks' that veer into what might rightly be thought of as 'Post-Post-Production,' where special treatments/effects are applied, and images are more 'created' than they are taken or captured. It may not be what you're aiming to do, per se, so that section may not be a best fit for you. Conversely, there may be techniques presented that will be of use to you; its hard to say. It appears instead that you might be better off by looking at your own images and deciding what will or will not make them 'better' in some way, and that is, of course, entirely subjective. Its too dark, and I want it lighter. It lacks clarity or structure or oomph in some manner, so I need to.... This bush needs to be brighter (or darker or more saturated or differently placed or ..... etc) to provide impact or counterpoint or whatever it might be that will improve the image. No software --however much you move a slider left or right-- will make a decision for you; only you can do that.

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May 5, 2020 20:40:35   #
bleirer
 
Mark1948 wrote:
Thanks & yes I too see my topics/posts & a few coments i hadn't seen before. I guess i was hoping for more input on how i might have done better. Is there a rule about trying again?

I now have the Adobe subscription to LR & PS. I'm trying to decide which way to go.


It's best to ask a specific question rather than just asking for critique in general. I think a lot of people skim over the photo gallery unless there is a question in the title. You get more responses with a question in main photography but don't put a picture in the first few posts.

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May 5, 2020 20:50:09   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
The Photo Gallery section is the one for you to post stuff that you'd like to get "Attaboys" on. Don't expect serious critiques. The quality of photos posted there ranges from mediocre snapshots to works of art. But they all get "Great shot!" admiration from some and are ignored by others. I rarely, if ever, post anything there.

If you have images that you'd like serious feedback on, I suggest "For Your Consideration" or one of the forums devoted to specific topics - e.g. Street, Landscape, Portraits, etc. Some critiques are sincere and helpful, others are, err... "not". Be prepared for either. Don't post photos for critique in the main photo section unless you like being insulted or don't really want a serious discussion. It's frowned upon.

As to your second question, I can only speak from my own experience. Lightroom accomplishes about 90% of what I want to do to enhance my images, I'm not big on replacing skies, combining images, and other more sophisticated tricks. I play with tonal curves, color enhancement, sharpness enhancements, and similar overall adjustments, but not much more. When I need to clone out objects or do other more sophisticated editing, I open the image using Photoshop, within Lightroom, and do whatever I'm capable of doing.

I've tried several of the alternative software programs, but in general, they don't provide any more capable tools than the Lightroom / Photoshop suite, and their learning curves are the same or more difficult. By sticking to the LR/PS suite, I'm assured of constantly updated software, the most capable software available at any given moment in time, and permanent access to my edited exports. There are ten times as many tutorials and videos available on this suite than on the next two most popular combined. Right now, I can afford the ten bucks a month (two lattes...) cost, and I'm not changing until I'm too broke to afford it.

In my not so humble opinion, it's not smart to pay for a "perpetual license" for a less capable product that will still be outmoded in a year or so, and become unusable the next time Microsoft or Apple decides a major OS upgrade is needed. If the illusion of "owning" your software appeals to you, go for it, but you're not getting any more value for your money.

Those are my, admittedly, highly opinionated opinions. Others will, no doubt, disagree. But keep shooting, get critique or inspiration wherever you can, and suck in every opinion that makes sense to you. Ignore the others.

Live long and prosper.

Andy

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May 5, 2020 20:55:07   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Cany143 wrote:
Several factors --which Linda who sez she's originally from Maine (and/or others)-- may likely point out the factors that will/can affect your viewing experience of posts you've posted. Rather than going into those....

CHG CANON (aka 'Paul') addressed (potentially, some of) your Q2 concerns rightly and generally, but nested in your question is the 'is this software better than that other' that often gets questioned and/or touted. Along those lines, the so-called 'learning curve' that appears to be feared by some and a concern to others should really be moot; learning how to do whatever it is you want to do will inevitably take time and practice, regardless the task and regardless the software. Each of the major applications can accomplish virtually anything you can conceive of doing, but none of them will make your decisions for you. Only you can do that. And while Ps may have far more capability than you'll ever want or need to utilize, it --like any raster editor-- will be necessary at times, and its only a matter of learning those (potentially) few techniques that makes your (or anyone's) workflow a matter of rote or simplicity.

Not to take anything away from the 'Post Processing' sub-forum, but it appears that section is more concerned with doing/learning 'tricks' that veer into what might rightly be thought of as 'Post-Post-Production,' where special treatments/effects are applied, and images are more 'created' than they are taken or captured. It may not be what you're aiming to do, per se, so that section may not be a best fit for you. Conversely, there may be techniques presented that will be of use to you; its hard to say. It appears instead that you might be better off by looking at your own images and deciding what will or will not make them 'better' in some way, and that is, of course, entirely subjective. Its too dark, and I want it lighter. It lacks clarity or structure or oomph in some manner, so I need to.... This bush needs to be brighter (or darker or more saturated or differently placed or ..... etc) to provide impact or counterpoint or whatever it might be that will improve the image. No software --however much you move a slider left or right-- will make a decision for you; only you can do that.
Several factors --which Linda who sez she's origin... (show quote)


You summed up my thoughts, and got the post in ahead of mine!

What he said....

Andy

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May 5, 2020 20:58:03   #
bleirer
 
Mark1948 wrote:
Like others I've been using my downtime to improve my PP skills.

Q1; I recently posted a few pics 2x to the gallery hoping for CD. Well although i can find both posts under my name on UHH, neither post appeared. Wondering what I did wrong. Is it ok if I try to repost the same pics?

Q2; I typically stick to landscapes, occasionally doing a few portraits or candid people pics. Lately, withe the help of Meunch & Co., I've gained a pretty good basic understanding of Lightroom. PS looks like a pretty steep learning curve with little gain given the type of pics I'm doing. Still more recently I've been looking at Luminar. I've reviewed their sales stuff & some of the posts here. Wondering if others have more recent experience. I'd especially like to hear from anyone who switched from Lightroom to Luminar.

Well that's it for now. Stay safe, healthy & thanks for a great site.
Like others I've been using my downtime to improve... (show quote)


Photoshop is the gold standard and it comes with Lightroom which is really good too. Together they are unbeatable.

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May 5, 2020 22:52:18   #
Mark1948
 
Very useful. Thanks

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