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May 3, 2020 10:59:22   #
BebuLamar
 
If I follow the meter I use A mode (aperture priority). If I need exposure compensation, meter with a separate meter or simply know the right exposure without the meter then I use M (Manual).
I never use the expose compensateur. It's much less convenient than simply using manual.

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May 3, 2020 11:18:52   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I shoot in manual mode all the time. I don't use Auto ISO either. I am in control of everything except my environment. However, I think everyone should shoot the way they are comfortable.

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May 3, 2020 11:40:58   #
User ID
 
A, S, and P modes are nearly identical for an advanced user so there’s nothing special about A-mode ... thus there goes half of the OP puzzle.

If you set the AEL to “toggle” then ASP modes all become extra convenient versions of M-mode.

Don’t know how many cameras have similar functions to Lumix’s “one push AE” but that is another example of dissolving boundaries between auto and manual operation. One-push AE is an AE feature that’s only operational with the mode dial set to Manual. So okay, is it Manual or is it Auto ? It is neither ... it is just built-in common sense design.

Basically there is zero photographic difference between modes. The differences are just changes in the layout and location of your controls. No need to fuss over choice of modes from one type of scene or subject to another. Set up the exposure control for the USER, not for the shot ... and leave it that way. Period.

Perznally I find S-mode is the most versatile mode dial setting cuz, used intelligently, it contains all the other modes’ functions within it, including M-mode. Like they used to say in broadcasting, “Don’t touch that dial !”

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May 3, 2020 12:09:14   #
User ID
 
Longshadow wrote:
Use the mode that will best give you the result you desire.
Could be aperture, shutter, manual, auto...


Parrot Wisdom ! Sounds so right, doesn’t it. Yes it always does.

But it blatantly disregards the OP question by just inverting it ... by just restating a question as a declarative. Still no closer to even a partial answer.

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May 3, 2020 12:14:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
User ID wrote:
Parrot Wisdom ! Sounds so right, doesn’t it. Yes it always does.

But it blatantly disregards the OP question by just inverting it ... by just restating a question as a declarative. Still no closer to even a partial answer.

Braaaaack..Thank you.
I appreciate your concern.

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May 3, 2020 12:14:58   #
User ID
 
DavidPine wrote:
I shoot in manual mode all the time. I don't use Auto ISO either. I am in control of everything except my environment. However, I think everyone should shoot the way they are comfortable.


I think more users should shoot the way they are NOT so comfortable. Try it. You don’t hafta like it.

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May 3, 2020 12:41:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
User ID wrote:
I think more users should shoot the way they are NOT so comfortable. Try it. You don’t hafta like it.


I think users should try all modes and see which one(s) they like best.

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May 3, 2020 13:16:31   #
gedgar2000
 
rmalarz wrote:
I use manual mode 99% of the time. Several of my cameras offer nothing but manual. That includes one recently acquired digital. What works for one may not for others.

Whether I select ISO, aperture, or shutter speed as the most important, will depend on what it is that I'm photographing. It becomes a system engineering situation.
--Bob


I stick mostly to Aperture mode. Because to me the ISO and shutter speeds will quickly become apparent. I think the Aperture is such a key variable, starting there works out easily.

If your situation is static, and you even have a tripod, you'll want the aperture you think is the sharpest one for your cameras, with a depth of field you need for your shot. F8 fits the bill a lot of times on my Nikon D810. You have the luxury of a low ISA so set it a 100. Now the shutter speed will be calculated for you. Since the scene is static and you're using a tripod, motion blur isn't an issue, nor is camera shake.
So the calculated shutter speed will usually be good. But it it's dark enough to want 30 seconds, you can open up the aperture if the of field is still good for you. And if you're in love with these aperture you picked, raising the ISO is the only game left. Noise is the penalty.

If I have a fast shot, of say racing cars, I know that I'm going to need the lowest ISO, so I start with a wide aperture. If I can take the shallow depth of field. Then I need to raise the ISO up to wear the shutter speed is fast enough to freeze the motion. I'll be thinking about noise reduction in post.

In short, aperture is a good starting point, and you let the camera do some work for you because of is ability to calculate the shutter speed. And ISO in auto ISO mode. If you are in auto ISO mode, then you look at the ISO the camera says you will need, and see if you can accept it. If its too high, and the noise that you anticipate scares you, then you need a larger aperture. And iterate in again. I don't see why you'd want tti go to manual. Using either aperture or shutter priorities as starting points lets the cameras bear some of the calculation weight.

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May 3, 2020 13:30:36   #
gedgar2000
 
Ysarex wrote:
The only concern is are you controlling the camera. I keep my cameras in P(program) mode most of the time. The engineers who designed our cameras spend time considering this issue and often do a really good job designing the cameras to work efficiently.

The first question is are you going to use the exposure meter built into the camera or are you going to determine exposure externally. If the answer is yes you're going to use the camera meter (the overwhelming majority of photographers do), then you might as well use it's full functionality. In our modern cameras control of the camera's exposure settings are linked to the meter automatically and they responded faster than any human using the camera in manual mode.

In my favorite camera set to P mode I have a thumb wheel right under my right hand thumb. Turning that wheel shifts the shutter/aperture combinations that the camera has already selected for the exposure. Under my right hand index finger is another wheel that shifts the exposure (Exposure Compensation). Between those two wheels I have full control of the exposure. It's fast and efficient. As long as I have control of the exposure parameters I have what I need. The camera mode question then is nothing more than what gets me to the point where I'm ready to take the photo as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Joe
The only concern is are you controlling the camera... (show quote)


I would think digital photography makes the cameras exposure calculation king. The reason? Any calculated exposure setting combination is just a suggestion. If I had an external meter that I knew was better, I'd still be using the camera's numbers. Because I can shoot a test shot, and modify the exposure calculation as needed. I've never used film, but I can picture an important photo that has to be good, but you won't know until the film is developed, then the accuracy of the initial exposure setting "guess" becomes way more important. Hooray for digital! It brings new photographers up the learning curve WAY faster. I could play with exposure settings and see the results of my experiments immediately. With film I'd have to keep a record of what I did so I could match it with the right photo after development. I'm not sure I'd have the discipline which is pitiful.

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May 3, 2020 13:32:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Fear of P mode defeats more photographers than any other setting on their camera.

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May 3, 2020 13:37:01   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Fear of P mode defeats more photographers than any other setting on their camera.



A, M, T, P, Z, ...WAIT- I DON'T HAVE A Z!

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May 3, 2020 13:42:45   #
BebuLamar
 
gedgar2000 wrote:
I would think digital photography makes the cameras exposure calculation king. The reason? Any calculated exposure setting combination is just a suggestion. If I had an external meter that I knew was better, I'd still be using the camera's numbers. Because I can shoot a test shot, and modify the exposure calculation as needed. I've never used film, but I can picture an important photo that has to be good, but you won't know until the film is developed, then the accuracy of the initial exposure setting "guess" becomes way more important. Hooray for digital! It brings new photographers up the learning curve WAY faster. I could play with exposure settings and see the results of my experiments immediately. With film I'd have to keep a record of what I did so I could match it with the right photo after development. I'm not sure I'd have the discipline which is pitiful.
I would think digital photography makes the camera... (show quote)


So then I simply forget about the the meter and calculation altogether. My camera meter went dead for about a month. I simply used it without the meter and it worked just fine. First guess are either right on or close enough for RAW work. After the intitial consecutive shots are perfect.

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May 3, 2020 14:07:16   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
Most of what I shoot I don't need to slow down so I use aperture just about all the time. If I feel that aperture isn't going to do the job then a go to manual.

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May 3, 2020 14:08:19   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
FWIW - I leave the "grab" camera in "P". That way, if I am in a rush I can just grab, point and shoot. If there is time to set up, I will go to either Tv or Av, depending on which is more important for the given situation, DOF or stop or blur motion.

I keep my prime camera in "M". Also, there are 2 "C" settings (I pre-saved) for concerts, one with and 1 without flash. They both are an "M" setting with fixed shutter speed, aperture, and ISO. I do use EC with them, as needed.

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May 3, 2020 17:15:53   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
In A mode you're saying that shutter speed isn't a priority. In S or Tv mode you're saying that aperture isn't a priority. People who shoot fast-moving subjects will tell you that you need to specify the shutter speed to prevent it from falling too low, so A mode is a recipe for failed shots. People who shoot slow-moving or stationary subjects will tell you that DOF is the potential shot killer, so not having control over aperture is a recipe for disaster.

The answer that you get depends on who you ask. My preference for landscapes is M+AutoISO. I can set aperture and then play off shutter speed against ISO. When necessary I can use EC to get further control over the exposure.

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