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Apr 29, 2020 08:08:23   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
has there ever been an "IR" section of the hogg? anyone have examples of some IR pics? A friend of mines' son is just a terrific sketch artist, and thinks that a IR digital camera might be something USEFUL to him....Anybody know how that might be so?..............................RJM

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Apr 29, 2020 08:15:47   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
digit-up wrote:
has there ever been an "IR" section of the hogg? anyone have examples of some IR pics? A friend of mines' son is just a terrific sketch artist, and thinks that a IR digital camera might be something USEFUL to him....Anybody know how that might be so?..............................RJM
There is an IR section here, but it’s small and relatively inactive, in my humble opinion.

To answer your second question, just how much is he willing to spend on either an IR-converted digital camera or an FS*-converted digital camera? The latter’s versatility comes at the price of almost always using an external filter, thus the camera (if a compact=bridge and not an ILC^,) would have to have threads for a filter.

* - FS = Full Spectrum
^ - ILC = Interchangeable Lens Camera

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Apr 29, 2020 08:16:25   #
ISO100 Loc: Richland City Indiana
 
digit-up wrote:
has there ever been an "IR" section of the hogg? anyone have examples of some IR pics? A friend of mines' son is just a terrific sketch artist, and thinks that a IR digital camera might be something USEFUL to him....Anybody know how that might be so?..............................RJM


Do a search at the top of the page for Infrared. There are more than 300 individual questions, comments, discussions. That might help.

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Apr 29, 2020 08:21:00   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
lev29 wrote:
There is an IR section here, but it’s small and relatively inactive, in my humble opinion.

To answer your second question, just how much is he willing to spend on either an IR-converted digital camera or an FS*-converted digital camera? The latter’s versatility comes at the price of almost always using an external filter, thus the camera (if a compact=bridge and not an ILC^,) would have to have threads for a filter.

* - FS = Full Spectrum
^ - ILC = Interchangeable Lens Camera
There is an IR section here, but it’s small and re... (show quote)


Thanks for your input. Ive been told that if you are willing to pay for film (IR film, specifically) that you can shoot IR with any film camera. Do you know if that's true?? but then you would have the expense of film, processing and printing, right?...................RJM

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Apr 29, 2020 08:30:37   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
There are two sites he should look at. Both convert camera to infrared, but also have tons of information.
Kolarivision.com
Lifepixel.com

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Apr 29, 2020 08:54:30   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
Thank you very much....RJM

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Apr 29, 2020 09:48:02   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
digit-up wrote:
Thanks for your input. Ive been told that if you are willing to pay for film (IR film, specifically) that you can shoot IR with any film camera. Do you know if that's true?? but then you would have the expense of film, processing and printing, right?...................RJM
Yes, that is true, but if that son of your friend wants to take more than a few dozen pictures in his lifetime, it is FAR MORE WORTH IT to make the additional capital investment cost of having a digital camera converted for some $200-$350.

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Apr 29, 2020 10:16:02   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
digit-up wrote:
has there ever been an "IR" section of the hogg? anyone have examples of some IR pics? A friend of mines' son is just a terrific sketch artist, and thinks that a IR digital camera might be something USEFUL to him....Anybody know how that might be so?..............................RJM


I have loved IR photography for many years, starting with B&W IR film. I didn't care for the color IR film, because it was just too far out, with the red skies. When I heard about digital IR, and the ability to get blue skies by doing a red/blue channel swap, which I feel gives me a better balance of realism and surrealism, I decided to get an old Nikon D70s converted by Lifepixel. Last year I had my old studio workhorse Nikon D2X converted for double the resolution. I got the Lifepixel Enhance Color Filter (665) since I knew I wanted to work in color. IR photography is great for those who like to do a lot of post processing. I also use a lot of fill flash in my IR photos. Here are some examples of my IR work.

















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Apr 29, 2020 10:40:43   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I have loved IR photography for many years, starting with B&W IR film. I didn't care for the color IR film, because it was just too far out, with the red skies. When I heard about digital IR, and the ability to get blue skies by doing a red/blue channel swap, which I feel gives me a better balance of realism and surrealism, I decided to get an old Nikon D70s converted by Lifepixel. Last year I had my old studio workhorse Nikon D2X converted for double the resolution. I got the Lifepixel Enhance Color Filter (665) since I knew I wanted to work in color. IR photography is great for those who like to do a lot of post processing. I also use a lot of fill flash in my IR photos. Here are some examples of my IR work.
I have loved IR photography for many years, starti... (show quote)


Magnificent! Thanks for the info and gorgeous pics!!!.........................RJM

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Apr 29, 2020 13:26:49   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
digit-up wrote:
Magnificent! Thanks for the info ............ RJM
Among other question for "your" sketch artist, is he more interested in monochrome (i.e. B&W) Infrared imaging (typically comprised of "pure" IR by employing a long-pass filter with a wavelength cutoff >~700 nm,) or color IR imaging? The latter can be comprised of a combination of IR and visible light (abbreviated 'VZ') using direct capture only or IR +/- VZ in combination with post-processing.

I could show you examples from my collection, but here are a couple of URLs that run the gamut:
http://www.photoir.net/infrared-gallery/
https://maxmax.com/gallery?i=DSCF3012

Here is a reference pertaining to 6 different Infrared films, each with example images:
https://www.lomography.com/magazine/320088-6-infrared-films-for-that-otherworldly-glow
and more of the last type shown: https://flickr.com/photos/158461930@N07/albums/72157706514544021/

Or if this sketch artist is more inclined to draw portraits and nude forms, there exist books such as this one:
https://www.overdrive.com/media/2157821/photographing-the-female-form-with-digital-infrared

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Apr 29, 2020 13:34:52   #
User ID
 
There’s plenty of replies from fans of IR and great examples of why they love it.

OTOH little advice is offered for the needs of the sketch artist. The following is an art world insider’s advice:

IR is a specialty involving expense and a learning curve. But it’s not especially beneficial to the sketch artist. The artist will find more inspiration and examples of rendering styles in the ubiquitous “art filters” that are found in most editing software and are also built into most digital cameras. Best thing is that the expenses and learning curve for these filters is verrrrry low.

I’ll be crucified for saying this, but IR imaging is, for the sketch artist, just one more “art filter” amongst so many others ... but it is the least simple to use, and the least economical, by a loooong shot, by a moon shot.

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Apr 30, 2020 08:16:44   #
Fayle Loc: Seward, Alaska and Rionegro, Colombia
 
digit-up wrote:
has there ever been an "IR" section of the hogg? anyone have examples of some IR pics? A friend of mines' son is just a terrific sketch artist, and thinks that a IR digital camera might be something USEFUL to him....Anybody know how that might be so?..............................RJM


Deb Sandidge is a professional photographer that wrote a book about IR. I haven't seen the book so I can't comment either way about it.

https://www.deborahsandidge.com/Photography/Infrared/

https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Infrared-Photography-Deborah-Sandidge/dp/047040521X/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=sandidge&qid=1588248771&sr=8-2

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Apr 30, 2020 08:36:08   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
Fayle wrote:
Sandidge is a professional photographer that wrote a book about IR. I haven't seen the book so I can't comment either way about it.
https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Infrared-Photography-Deborah-Sandidge/dp/047040521X/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=sandidge&qid=1588248771&sr=8-2
Yes, it’s a good book. I bought it back in 2010 new. Since then, it has gone out of print and just 2-3 years ago, when a non-photographer friend of mine looked to buy it as a gift for me, the lowest price he could find was $187; but according to the Amazon link you provided, this price has come down to ~$43 - $60.

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Apr 30, 2020 08:45:01   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
User ID wrote:
... The following is an art world insider’s advice:

1. IR is a specialty involving expense and a learning curve. But it’s not especially beneficial to the sketch artist. The artist will find more inspiration and examples of rendering styles in the ubiquitous “art filters” that are found in most editing software and are also built into most digital cameras. Best thing is that the expenses and learning curve for these filters is verrrrry low.

2. I’ll be crucified for saying this, but IR imaging is, for the sketch artist, just one more “art filter” amongst so many others ... but it is the least simple to use, and the least economical, by a loooong shot, by a moon shot.
... The following is an art world insider’s advice... (show quote)
I disagree with your 1st point as it is easy to operate an IR-converted compact camera (with an internal long-pass IR filter cutoff >700 no,) but as to your 2nd one, I believe you raise a good point, User ID! From digit-up's posts, it’s not even clear whether this sketch artist himself is actually interested in IR photography.

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Apr 30, 2020 09:06:41   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
lev29 wrote:
I disagree with your 1st point as it is easy to operate an IR-converted compact camera (with an internal long-pass IR filter cutoff >700 no,) but as to your 2nd one, I believe you raise a good point, User ID! From digit-up's posts, it’s not even clear whether this sketch artist himself is actually interested in IR photography.


So..... You disagree with his first point. AND YOU DONT PAY ATTENTION. Go back and re-read my opening statement. The sketch artist wants to use I.R. It is his interest in it, not mine. I really appreciate the informative and POSITIVE COMMENTS by most here. Thanks again............RJM

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