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Apr 28, 2020 06:53:56   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
John N wrote:
I've had a query from an old colleague at work who is coming up to retirement and is looking at taking his photography more seriously.

He currently has a D500 and would like to consider a D7500 (an example of which he has found on a deal).

I'm a CANON user and could wade through the brochures but I've no practical experience with any NIKON with the exception of an old WP model.

Can you advise on whether this will be a good jump and will the lenses he had with his old D500 fit the newer model. I want to be sure there is not a CANON EFS / EF bayonet change. Any other advice concerning this model (and others) most welcome, but please don't flood the reply with a recommendation for every model that NIKON has ever made. We are helping a snapper up his game without confusion.
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Sorry, but personally I prefer the D500 over the D7500 for sports and wildlife. The D500 shots are 10 fps, the D7500 does not. The D500 has the same dual focusing system as the D5 and D850, the D7500 does not.
Are you sure you are not talking about the D5000?

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Apr 28, 2020 07:10:58   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
Thanks for all your replies. I'm sure he has enough to go on now - and I'll be able to assist him on any non Nikon specific queries.

He had a mistype when he contacted me and his existing camera is a D5100. Me, not being a Nikon afficienado did not immediatley pick up the D500 was top of the bunch.

Again, thanks and apologies. Hopefully he'll join us one day.

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Apr 28, 2020 07:12:25   #
Dr. John
 
CO wrote:
The D7500 is not all plastic. It's carbon fiber.


I went through the succession of D7000, then D7100 and finally D7200, then upgraded to full frame D750. I was very happy with the D7200 it seemed to make an appreciable difference compared to the two previous models. Then the snob in me awakened and I simply HAD to have the D750. The most awesome camera I've EVER owned and I went through the FM, N70, then F5 (snob again!) and the digitals D40x and the four above. D750 is simply awesome! I also have the Z6 and I love it as well. So there are definitely a number of options to consider as the D750 has dropped in price quite dramatically in recent months. The FX glass is obviously more expensive but some shots are clearly worth it as is the much better low light performance. My advice/recommendation would be a D750 with a 24 -120 mm kit lens.

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Apr 28, 2020 07:23:44   #
ELNikkor
 
The D7500 can do something the D500 can never do; pop up a flash! (That feature alone would have me choosing the D7500.) It is more camera than the D5100, (which I also have), though the D5100 screen is fully articulated, while the D7500 screen only adjusts up and down. The single card slot is no deterrent, as one card can shoot both RAW and jpeg at the same time, and in the past 10 years, I've never had a card fail ever. The D7500 would be a step up from the D5100, as it has some of the best refinements in the DX format Nikon has ever produced for its DSLRs. That said, a new era is dawning throughout the camera world. The mirrorless DX Z50 gets rave reviews, and the Z6 is even better, if he wants to venture into full frame.

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Apr 28, 2020 07:28:44   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
ELNikkor wrote:
The D7500 can do something the D500 can never do; pop up a flash! (That feature alone would have me choosing the D7500.) It is more camera than the D5100, (which I also have), though the D5100 screen is fully articulated, while the D7500 screen only adjusts up and down. The single card slot is no deterrent, as one card can shoot both RAW and jpeg at the same time, and in the past 10 years, I've never had a card fail ever. The D7500 would be a step up from the D5100, as it has some of the best refinements in the DX format Nikon has ever produced for its DSLRs. That said, a new era is dawning throughout the camera world. The mirrorless DX Z50 gets rave reviews, and the Z6 is even better, if he wants to venture into full frame.
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Yes, the D7500 has a pop up flash, the down side is because it has a pop up flash it is not weather sealed. Again, there is really no comparison. They are two completely different camera's for different purposes.
99.9% of the folks who own the D500 really could care less if it has a pop up flash. Every time I go out in a heavy fog, I am happy I do not have a pop up flash.

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Apr 28, 2020 08:15:52   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
LWW wrote:
That’s what I said, plastic.

Carbon fiber is strong plastic, but still plastic.


Carbon fiber is NOT plastic, much stronger. some aircraft parts are made out of carbon fiber.

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Apr 28, 2020 08:26:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you want to make enemies, say something true about Nikon.

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Apr 28, 2020 08:35:01   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"I went from a D5100 to the D500. I must say the better camera did NOT make me a better photographer."

Neither going from a D5100 to a D7500 will make anybody better either. I have my own way of judging upgrading, if the new camera will have features that are essential for my photography upgrade is in order. Upgrading is something that comes up very often in this forum. People want the best and the latest and the result is that they sell cameras in excellent condition for the delight of those that buy them. Two cameras come to my mind, the D3 and the D700, ancient cameras to say the least when it comes to technology, both with 12 megapixels and both as capable as more modern models with more megapixels. If you have never seen a 20x30 enlargement from a D3 you are for a treat when you see one.

Another old camera that I admired was the D200. The D200 with its first generation of Nikon colors offered gorgeous enlargements. I have tried to imitate those colors with my present cameras without success.
If your friend has no special needs and the D5100 has served him well perhaps a better lens would be a better solution than buying a new camera.

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Apr 28, 2020 08:38:15   #
Festus Loc: North Dakota
 
John N wrote:
I've had a query from an old colleague at work who is coming up to retirement and is looking at taking his photography more seriously.

He currently has a D500 and would like to consider a D7500 (an example of which he has found on a deal).

I'm a CANON user and could wade through the brochures but I've no practical experience with any NIKON with the exception of an old WP model.

Can you advise on whether this will be a good jump and will the lenses he had with his old D500 fit the newer model. I want to be sure there is not a CANON EFS / EF bayonet change. Any other advice concerning this model (and others) most welcome, but please don't flood the reply with a recommendation for every model that NIKON has ever made. We are helping a snapper up his game without confusion.
I've had a query from an old colleague at work who... (show quote)


In my opinion, adding a D7500 would not lead your friend towards a more serious photography interest. Unless you consider having 2 camera bodies doing that. The D7500 would actually be a step down in camera sophistication and capabilities. Adding a D800.. series body, or adding a Z6/7 would move him forward. But that would also entail purchasing new lenses as well.

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Apr 28, 2020 08:39:34   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to make enemies, say something true about Nikon.


Nikon is better than Canon..

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Apr 28, 2020 08:46:04   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
John Sh wrote:
I went from a D5100 to the D500. I must say the better camera did NOT make me a better photographer.
I became a better photog because I had to live up to the camera.



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Apr 28, 2020 09:07:49   #
Festus Loc: North Dakota
 
sr71 wrote:
Nikon is better than Canon..


No truer words spoken!

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Apr 28, 2020 09:10:37   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
So i began my kit with the same dilemma.

I decided on full frame. It is a substantial investment in the long run as it really is the entire kit including post production etc. But a true step up. All his old lenses will work, so he won't be farther behind than a top of the line crop sensor camera. But he will have the option of beginning to collect FX lenses. Some primes are very reasonable and excellent. Get a FX 24-70 and he could probably get away with nothing further. I went primes, but have seen excellent results from FX Zooms.

Depends on the ultimate direction he is headed.

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Apr 28, 2020 09:15:03   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to make enemies, say something true about Nikon.



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Apr 28, 2020 09:32:34   #
foggypreacher Loc: Dickinson, Texas
 
LWW wrote:
The 7500 would be a great upgrade on pretty much all levels, it will work with any of his current glass ... plus it has a built in focus motor allowing the use of old NIKKOR AF and AFD glass and there are some tremendous values there on lenses which are built like a tank, unlike the plastic lenses of today. They are also generally at least 1 stop faster than the consumer grade lenses now, but they don't have VR. IMHO Its a more than fair tradeoff.

As an addendum, I would advise he look for a leftover D7200 as the D75oo was a step back in some specs.

As an example the 7500 is 1.6 ounces lighter than the 7200 ... but is all plastic whereas the 7200 has a magnesium metal frame. The 7200 also has 2 card slots instead of 1 and has the option of a NIKON vertical grip which the 7500 does not offer.

The 7200 also has a higher MP count but only shoots at 6 FPS instead of the 8 FPS on the 7500.

Now, asking about their old glass, there is a caveat ... the 7500 will not meter with older MF lenses which the 7200 will do.
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When I was looking to upgrade from a D3400, I looked at the D7500. I found a used 7200 and was given the same advise you gave, RLL, and bought it. Very happy with it.

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