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Apr 24, 2020 11:58:57   #
linelink
 
BigDen, Biden has been in Wash. D.C. his entire adult life. If he was corrupt, the GOP would have uncovered it over the last 60 yrs. I lived there and Biden gets more compliments from the other side of the aisle than any democrat in history. Let’s talk corruption. Mr. Trump can we just get a peak at your taxes? Mr. Trump why have so many people that you have hired, quit? Why have others been indicted? What cave is Giuliani hiding in, so he keeps his mouth shut prior to the e******n. Biden is one of two politicians with an actual spine. The other is rather recently, Mitt Romney!

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Apr 24, 2020 11:59:13   #
clickety
 
Leefl wrote:
I heard it myself during his press briefing and it is all over the news last night and this AM. It can likely be found on YouTube by now.


Stop: you did not hear what you claim!
I believe you are referring to the Presidents comments following Bill Bryan’s presentation on the effect of UV light on the C***d ** v***s. It appears he was recounting a prior discussion about Mr Bryan’s research results; At 6:14 PM ET, the President said quote “supposing we hit the body with a tremendous whether ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but I think you said you were going to test it, and then Isaid supposing you bring the light inside the body which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you were going to test that too, sounds very interesting, and then I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, and is there a way that we a do something like that by injection or almost a cleaning? you’d have to use medical doctors for that but the whole thing sounds interesting”. End quote.
This was not unlike the moment when at some point in the past, someone said ‘what if we inject toxic chemicals into the body? ‘ Which obviously was then researched and now cancer patients routinely undergo ‘chemotherapy’ and survive.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:02:24   #
BigDen Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
foodie65 wrote:
where have you been these past 3 and 1/2 years???


I have been listening to what he actually says.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:04:51   #
clickety
 
Leefl wrote:
So now we have the leader of our country suggesting that people could inject themselves with disinfectant and stick UV lights in their bodies to treat C***D **. Talk about anti science and medicine... The source of this nonsense is at the top. He is the only one pushing the anti-science and anti-medicine agenda. His toadies fall in line and struggle to support his nonsense because if they don't, they will be fired. It's all about politics. He's more intrested in getting himself re-elected than fighting this p******c. He doesn't care who he hurts as long as it helps him.
So now we have the leader of our country suggestin... (show quote)


I believe you are referring to the Presidents comments following Bill Bryan’s presentation on the effect of UV light on the C***d ** v***s. It appears he was recounting a prior discussion about Mr Bryan’s research results; At 6:14 PM ET, the President said quote “supposing we hit the body with a tremendous whether ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but I think you said you were going to test it, and then Isaid supposing you bring the light inside the body which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you were going to test that too, sounds very interesting, and then I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, and is there a way that we a do something like that by injection or almost a cleaning? you’d have to use medical doctors for that but the whole thing sounds interesting”. End quote.


This was not unlike the moment when at some point in the past, someone said ‘what if we inject toxic chemicals into the body? ‘ Which obviously was then researched and now cancer patients routinely undergo ‘chemotherapy’ and survive.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:11:22   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
We have always had “Medicine Wagons” followed by “Believers”.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:29:15   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
Bill 45 wrote:
What with all this anti-science and medicine that is on the land today? I want to keep this from going to the attic, so think before give your answer.

With all the talk about C****av***s and the work on a future v*****e, the science of v*****es has come into people's general thought process....some for...some against.

There is a docu-series called "The T***h about V*****es" giving both the pros and cons of v*****es. It is a nine part series, each one from 1 to 2 hours long...so if you intend to watch it, give yourself plenty of time.

Episode 1 is at: https://www.b***hute.com/video/hsF09XjUtRGW/

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Apr 24, 2020 12:37:18   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
With all the talk about C****av***s and the work on a future v*****e, the science of v*****es has come into people's general thought process....some for...some against.

There is a docu-series called "The T***h about V*****es" giving both the pros and cons of v*****es. It is a nine part series, each one from 1 to 2 hours long...so if you intend to watch it, give yourself plenty of time.

Episode 1 is at: https://www.b***hute.com/video/hsF09XjUtRGW/

Who produced it?

Is it truly t***h or will it feed the narratives that feed “anti-vaxers”??

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Apr 24, 2020 12:37:58   #
BigDen Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
linelink wrote:
BigDen, Biden has been in Wash. D.C. his entire adult life. If he was corrupt, the GOP would have uncovered it over the last 60 yrs. I lived there and Biden gets more compliments from the other side of the aisle than any democrat in history. Let’s talk corruption. Mr. Trump can we just get a peak at your taxes? Mr. Trump why have so many people that you have hired, quit? Why have others been indicted? What cave is Giuliani hiding in, so he keeps his mouth shut prior to the e******n. Biden is one of two politicians with an actual spine. The other is rather recently, Mitt Romney!
BigDen, Biden has been in Wash. D.C. his entire ad... (show quote)


The GOP have exposed Biden’s corruption but MSM covers for him and ignore the well documented evidence. Have you not seen the video of Biden not only admitting to, but bragging about it? He is even worse than our current Prime Minister in Canada. Trudeau also has the media covering for him and the sheep re-elect him.

The rest of your comments regarding Trump corruption are pure speculation based on wishful thinking.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:41:05   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
jayluber wrote:
He didn't say we should do that. He was asking the doctors about using light to k**l the v***s somehow and then later asked if there was some way we could use one of the antiseptics to k**l the v***s inside the body.

You really should stop spreading lies and believing every thing you hear from the f**e media.

Here is what he said:

"Question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it," Trump said, looking over to Bryan.
"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're gonna test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous number, so it will be interesting to check that. So that you're going to have to use medical doctors. But it sounds, it sounds interesting to me. So we'll see.

"But the whole concept of the light, the way it k**ls it in one minute, that's, that's pretty powerful."
He didn't say we should do that. He was asking th... (show quote)


I think what is unacceptable in the president's statement yesterday is that he had not discussed these ideas with medical resources or scientific resources in advance of standing at the podium and making the above statements. Asking about it before throwing it out to the public would have been responsible.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:41:20   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
linelink wrote:
I distinctly heard him turn to the doctors sitting on the side wall and ask about injecting.

Yes. He asked.
He did not recommend.
Was it a stupid thing to say? Yes.
Was it Trump trying to show he knows more than he really does? Yes.
Should he be blasted in the media for recommending?
No. But that's what the h**eful biased media does. They twist and lie.
All the while they are fanning the flames.
Sells more advertising, makes more money.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:42:01   #
tomcat
 
foodie65 wrote:
If you view something other than FOX, you can see cult leader spouting this to his base.


How indignant of you to assume I watch FOX, you jackass. I merely asked where he had heard this. I watch NBC news on my local channel and there was nothing about this. So stay out of my conversation you sack of excrement

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Apr 24, 2020 12:42:11   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BigDen wrote:
The GOP have exposed Biden’s corruption but MSM covers for him and ignore the well documented evidence. Have you not seen the video of Biden not only admitting to, but bragging about it? He is even worse than our current Prime Minister in Canada. Trudeau also has the media covering for him and the sheep re-elect him.

This is the sort of thing that could send this thread to the Attic!!! I carefully chose words in this post carefully and will not otherwise respond.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:45:35   #
BigDen Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
rehess wrote:
This is the sort of thing that could send this thread to the Attic!!! I carefully chose words in this post carefully and will not otherwise respond.


Sending this to the attic because of factual statements would be censorship.

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Apr 24, 2020 12:46:34   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Bill 45 wrote:
What with all this anti-science and medicine that is on the land today? I want to keep this from going to the attic, so think before give your answer.


I think the problem is most people confuse statistics with 'science'. The statistics will change depending on what question you are answering. For example deaths with patients who test positive to C***D vs deaths CAUSED by C***D. Two completely different results.

Right now the media is pushing the numbers for deaths where C***D was detected to inflate the urgency and sell more media ...

I am aware of this from Allegheny County death reports - in one instance the person was in an auto accident but it is reported as C***D related even though the person died at the scene.

CMS (Medicare) guidelines also has stated that if a positive test for C***D is identified, it MUST be included in the list of diagnosis that the patient was admitted for and should be used as the cause of death if in doubt. Check the CMS website for more detail

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Apr 24, 2020 12:46:39   #
Leefl
 
tomcat wrote:
How indignant of you to assume I watch FOX, you jackass. I merely asked where he had heard this. I watch NBC news on my local channel and there was nothing about this. So stay out of my conversation you sack of excrement


Now that is offensive language.

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