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Apr 21, 2020 18:12:09   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
This is my first Canon camera and it is making me crazy. Does not act like I expect it to
or maybe I just do not understand this Canon.

In Tv mode I can set the shutter speed and camera sets aperture

In Av mode I can set aperture and the camera sets shutter speed

In M mode I can set both shutter speed and aperture

Now in P mode it is suppose to set both shutter speed and aperture.
But I can turn top dial and change aperture and the lower dial changes compensation + or -

Is this normal? From what I remember, my Nikon D700 controlled everything in P mode.

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Apr 21, 2020 18:17:34   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
If you change one setting, the other has to change to compensate for the change as determined by the sensor.

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Apr 21, 2020 18:28:31   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
See page 190 of your (english) instruction manual, specifically program shift.

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Apr 21, 2020 18:40:35   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If shooting in AUTO ISO, that might be allowing the camera to make adjustments to the ISO undoing your efforts for Aperture and Shutterspeed.

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Apr 21, 2020 18:46:39   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
See page 190 of your (english) instruction manual, specifically program shift.


Program Shift is a new one for me. My old D700 allegedly had a Program Flex mode which I never used.

Thanks for the info, thought my camera was malfunctioning.

I am finding Canon has things Nikon doesn't and things Nikon has act differently on a Canon.

Time to READ the manual ...........

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Apr 21, 2020 19:31:18   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
authorizeduser wrote:
This is my first Canon camera and it is making me crazy. Does not act like I expect it to
or maybe I just do not understand this Canon.

In Tv mode I can set the shutter speed and camera sets aperture

In Av mode I can set aperture and the camera sets shutter speed

In M mode I can set both shutter speed and aperture

Now in P mode it is suppose to set both shutter speed and aperture.
But I can turn top dial and change aperture and the lower dial changes compensation + or -

Is this normal? From what I remember, my Nikon D700 controlled everything in P mode.
This is my first Canon camera and it is making me ... (show quote)

Functioning as designed, all normal.

Yes the difference between P and A(utomatic) is that though the processor sets things at first in P you can make changes and the processor then changes the others to keep the exposure. In full Auto you don't make changes.

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Apr 22, 2020 05:37:10   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
I think of p as auto but I do have some say in things. The thinking man's auto perhaps. For when I might really want a wide aperture and otherwise lazy. Play and learn. I've got a50d would like to trade up but can't justify. Cheers.

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Apr 22, 2020 05:59:32   #
miked46 Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
 
No it seems normal to me, just have to get used to it, but it will change another option for compensation to what you did.

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Apr 22, 2020 11:00:17   #
williejoha
 
Being a Canon shooter it sounds normal to me.
WJH

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Apr 22, 2020 11:04:13   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
authorizeduser wrote:
Program Shift is a new one for me. My old D700 allegedly had a Program Flex mode which I never used.

Thanks for the info, thought my camera was malfunctioning.

I am finding Canon has things Nikon doesn't and things Nikon has act differently on a Canon.

Time to READ the manual ...........


When in doubt read the manual..... but only as an absolute last resort!

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Apr 22, 2020 11:56:02   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Read the book and listen to CHG CANON

Michigan has a ton of clubs particular in South East Michigan, Most are down now but email redirect and I will help you find one. I belong to the one at Seven Ponds (Closed now) but a centering club (about 70-80 members)

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Apr 22, 2020 12:04:07   #
willaim Loc: Sunny Southern California
 
The P mode or Program AE will set the shutter and aperture automatically(like the A mode), but you can change the shutter and aperture with the top dial keeping the same ratio of light hitting the sensor(can't in the A mode) Using the back dial set the exposure compensation. So, yes, your camera is working properly in the P mode.

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Apr 22, 2020 12:04:50   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
authorizeduser wrote:
This is my first Canon camera and it is making me crazy. Does not act like I expect it to
or maybe I just do not understand this Canon.

In Tv mode I can set the shutter speed and camera sets aperture

In Av mode I can set aperture and the camera sets shutter speed

In M mode I can set both shutter speed and aperture

Now in P mode it is suppose to set both shutter speed and aperture.
But I can turn top dial and change aperture and the lower dial changes compensation + or -

Is this normal? From what I remember, my Nikon D700 controlled everything in P mode.
This is my first Canon camera and it is making me ... (show quote)


The P mode you can still change aperture and shutter. Or leave it alone and the camera will choose the shutter and aperture it thinks best.
This allows instant adjustment if you want a smaller aperture or faster shutter than what the camera automatically decided. Very cool feature.

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Apr 22, 2020 12:25:33   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
authorizeduser wrote:
This is my first Canon camera and it is making me crazy. Does not act like I expect it to
or maybe I just do not understand this Canon.

In Tv mode I can set the shutter speed and camera sets aperture

In Av mode I can set aperture and the camera sets shutter speed

In M mode I can set both shutter speed and aperture

Now in P mode it is suppose to set both shutter speed and aperture.
But I can turn top dial and change aperture and the lower dial changes compensation + or -

Is this normal? From what I remember, my Nikon D700 controlled everything in P mode.
This is my first Canon camera and it is making me ... (show quote)


When in P mode, turning the top (Main) dial doesn't just change aperture. It changes to different speed/aperture COMBINATIONS that give equivalent exposure. So you can still choose a preferred aperture or shutter speed for depth-of-field control or motion-stopping as you desire and the camera maintains correct exposure.

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Apr 22, 2020 13:12:49   #
Old Coot
 
P or program mode is the old EV System
change the aperture and the shutter speed adjusts to give the same EV value.
You need to set the ISO to a fixed value

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