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Apr 18, 2020 11:37:55   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Scotty, first off, it's not my formula. I didn't derive this relationship. It was formulated by people far more famous and experienced in this sort of thing. As I mentioned, Messrs. Hurter and Driffield, Archer, and Adams.

Obviously, one would have to adjust if the measured light was a value greater than shutter speed settings would allow. However, keeping in mind the relationship between f/stop and shutter speed would allow one to use a suitable shutter speed and associated f/stop. For instance, my Hasselblad's fasted shutter speed is 1/500. I'm photographing a scene using ISO 125. My basic f/stop is 11.18, but I'll use 11. I measure a scene and see that the meter shows EV of 12. EV 12 is 951fc. This indicates a shutter speed of 1/1000. However, I don't have that shutter speed available. It's no problem. Keeping the relationship, I'll use 1/500 at f/16.

One also has to keep in mind that exposure is only 1/2 of the task. Processing is the other 1/2. Combine the two and one obtains the ideal file, be it film or digital, from which to make a print which succeeds in expressing the photographer's vision of the original scene.

The Sunny 16 rules states, "On a sunny day set aperture to f/16 and shutter speed to the [reciprocal of the] ISO film speed [or ISO setting] for a subject in direct sunlight."[1]

This is a good rule of thumb and works to some degree. However, it doesn't permit the placement of light values where the photographer might want them to be placed. In fact, Sunny 16 work perfectly for one light value and one light value only. If it works suitably for you, then by all means use it.
--Bob

[1] Bernhard J. Suess (2003). Mastering Black-and-White Photography. Allworth Communications. ISBN 1-58115-306-6.


selmslie wrote:
Your formula gives a starting point of, "f-stop=square root of the ISO, Shutter speed is the reciprocal of the brightness measured in foot-candles squared."

But what if you want a different shutter speed or aperture? You need to adjust them so that the exposure remains the same. That's what I mean by a trade-off.

Of course, you need to do the same with Sunny 16 or any other scheme. The light meter's calculator makes that easy.

With Sunny 16 (light value = 14.67) or a light value (LV) of 15 anything with the highest reflectance will not result in a raw value that is beyond the maximum value in any of the three color channels, i.e., no blown diffuse highlights. In all but the most extreme cases this also applies to the JPEG SOOC.

It's not hard to remember that, if you want to shoot a daylight scene at ISO 400, and f/11, you can set the shutter speed to 1/800 (Sunny 16) or 1/1000 (LV 15).

And it also works for transparency film or any form of negative film where diffuse highlights are impossible to blow.
Your formula gives a starting point of, "f-st... (show quote)

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Apr 18, 2020 11:39:18   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I keep the equivalence tables in a notebook which is always with me when I am out with my cameras.
--Bob
BebuLamar wrote:
To be honest I can't convert from EV to Candle per Square Foot without a calculator or at least a slide rule or a log table.

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Apr 18, 2020 11:46:44   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Steve, you are absolutely correct. Since a lot of lenses don't have f-stops above 22 one would have to keep in mind the relationship of f/stop and shutter speed. So, f/40 being a starting point one would have to reduce that to f/22 that being two stops. This would require an appropriate change in shutter speed.
--Bob
steve33 wrote:
That makes sense at iso 100. What about high iso?
1600 iso or higher would call for f40 or higher.

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Apr 18, 2020 11:48:54   #
BebuLamar
 
I read Adams books and I really like and learn a lot from his books. However, the exposure formula I found not useful for several reasons.
1. It's hard to figure out the square root in my head.
2. I don't remember any light values in cd/ft^2 like Adams remember the luminance of the moon.
3. There is no instruments I have that measures in that units. Most do readout in EV (or LV). Knowing the LV (or EV@ISO100) I can figure out any combination of shutter speed, aperture, ISO in 1/3 stop increment in my head.

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Apr 18, 2020 11:49:43   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Julian, I posted a three-part series a while back. Here are the links.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-638055-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-638181-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-638455-1.html

Is that what you had in mind? If not, please let me know. I always enjoy inspiration to write an article.
--Bob

Julian wrote:
Now that you have gone through the Basics of Exposure, can you elaborate further into the next chapter? Perhaps in more detail: Exposure for Professionals...? Thanks for your article

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Apr 18, 2020 12:05:06   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
William, as with any specialized field, there is associated terminology. Try walking into a chemistry supply business and asking for a glass container. The terminology will quickly expose one to terms such as beaker and flask, to name a couple.

Using a shotgun method such as Sunny 16 will get one close. However, if one is determined to obtain the closest to ideal exposure for their vision of the scene being photographed, a precise measurement will be required. I use two spot meters. One is a Sekonic L758DR. This has the capability of measuring a 1-degree spot. If I need more precision than that I use and S.E.I. photometer. That can measure a 1/2-degree spot. However, it also requires an acquired skill of the user.

Film's response to light/processing has its H-D curves. Digital is linear, in that it doesn't have the heel and toe portions of the H-D curves. However, with a bit if dedication, one can learn to work with the digital response to exposure and ultimately succeed in accomplishing the control The Zone System offers.

I agree. Bahman Farzad's book is a wonderful bit of writing. Anyone interested in the subject would do well to read his book.
--Bob

camerapapi wrote:
Excellent post Bob although the terminology could be confusing to those that begin their photographic journey. Sunny 16 works very well in any place of this planet although it requires modifications which are clearly explained depending on the lighting.
An incident exposure meter will place the exposure in the ballpark because it does not keep into account the reflectance of the subject. The spot meter, as you mentioned, is a very precise metering mode in the hands of a skillful photographer.

Digital, as you know is a different media compared to film and with film it is not the same to expose for b&w, color film or slides. Your example of the night shot when you metered from the bright light is the classic example. The important bright areas need to be exposed properly to avoid clipping using digital cameras. Detail lost in the bright areas are very difficult to impossible to get back. The shadow areas on the contrary are more flexible and can be opened up in post in a majority of the cases although noise is a potential problem. I am sure that many members here never worked with b&w film and this media as you already explained requires metering from important shadow areas. Development of the film will take care of the highlights while not loosing shadow details.

Something hard to understand for the beginner is the fact that an exposure meter cannot see tonalities. Exposure meters are designed, as you mentioned for rendering a Zone 5 or middle tone in reading their field of view. A bright or a dark subject will need exposure compensation. Matrix metering compensates the exposure but not even the manufacturer tells us when and by how much. It works pretty good for many subjects but fails miserably with many others. Although exposure compensation is not recommended with matrix, evaluative or multi pattern metering there are times when exposure compensation is needed. Just look at the color histogram to have an accurate representation of the exposure. It tells us how to proceed. Something I can say and you understand it perfectly, center weighted and spot metering are very predictable and those are the types of metering we have been using for years. We know what they do and what we have to do to get the correct exposure, be it film or digital.

As you also said, there are many books about exposure. In my case I got lost in the first few pages with most of them till I found "The Confused Photographer's Guide to Photographic Exposure and the Simplified Zone System" a long title for an easy to read and easy to understand book that will make any photographer an expert in photographic exposure in just one week. Written by the late Bahman Farzad it can be bought today for pennies in the second hand market. It is the best book on exposure that I have ever read.

Thanks Bob for taking the time to show us the intricacies of photographic exposure, one of the most basic concepts to learn when we want better images.
Excellent post Bob although the terminology could ... (show quote)

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Apr 18, 2020 12:05:53   #
Rick Bailey Loc: Fayetteville Arkansas
 
Two excellent reference books, both out of print now: Fred Picker's Zone VI Studio and the original Leica Manual. The original Nikon Manual is also very good (three ring binder).

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Apr 18, 2020 12:06:39   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Well, Bill, nice of you to chime in. Whether you care to enjoy this "missive" is up to you. However, this is underlying any splendid works you produce.
--Bob
billnikon wrote:
Sorry, I am a photographer, so I will let others enjoy your missive.

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Apr 18, 2020 12:07:12   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thank you very much, Jasstrader.
--Bob
Jazztrader wrote:
This was great!

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Apr 18, 2020 12:09:32   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thanks for taking a look and posting a reply. I did post a few more articles that you might find interesting. Here are the links.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-638055-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-638181-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-638455-1.html

If there is something of interest that you would like me to explore, please let me know.
--Bob
cmc4214 wrote:
Thank you for a very informative article, I learned a lot from it, I would greatly appreciate you doing more of this type if you would.

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Apr 18, 2020 12:10:43   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You are quite welcome. I enjoy doing this sort of thing, as well as going out and making photographs.
--Bob
AFPhoto wrote:
That was an excellent, comprehensive explanation. Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.

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Apr 18, 2020 12:12:44   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You're welcome, pumakat. Like you, I occasionally enjoy the humor on this site, as well as appreciating the fine work some of its members post.
--Bob
pumakat wrote:
Thank you for this well thought out post. I need reminders like this since I just dabble in photography.
I do enjoy this forum a lot. Especially for the humor and mostly male perspective.

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Apr 18, 2020 12:13:38   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Yes, you can find it in one of my replies. It's condensed to 3 or 4 lines.
--Bob
Dannj wrote:
Is there a Reader’s Digest version of this article?

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Apr 18, 2020 12:14:08   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thank you, John.
--Bob
jaymatt wrote:
Interesting and well said.

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Apr 18, 2020 12:15:02   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Jim, you're very welcome. I'm glad you got something from it.
--Bob
jimcrna wrote:
Bob. Thanks for the academics then translating into practical use. It is a lot to digest but well worth the effort..Thanks for posting and the time involved. Jim

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