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Apr 14, 2020 10:00:13   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
The son of a close friend, is a marvelous “sketch artist”. Around Christmas-time, I offered him a Fuji x-A3 that I own.my thinking was that a great artist of any”persuasion” could benefit from owning and using a camera. He wasn’t comfortable taking a camera and lens from someone “HE” didn’t know so he didn’t take the GIFT...THEN.... now he has concluded that doing some “infra-red stuff might augment his “ARTISTRY”, but I know nothing about “infra-red” and would like to find out whether or not, he could convert a fugi mirror-less, to take infra-red images, before I give him the kit. The kid (27 years old) is without a doubt, the most talented artist I’ve ever personally known and I would love to CONTRIBUTE. Can anyone enlighten me a little about infra-red image-making?? And can this camera do the job??.......................................RJM

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Apr 14, 2020 10:05:18   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I was that "kid" many years ago. Actually a Point-N-Shoot is my preferred Infrared camera for many reasons which I won't detail here, but if you research Infrared conversions you may see some of what I mean. Also, a PNS is perfect for an artist who doesn't want to be burdened down with interchangeable lenses and gear.

P.S. A great thing you are doing.

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Apr 14, 2020 10:19:36   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I was that "kid" many years ago. Actually a Point-N-Shoot is my preferred Infrared camera for many reasons which I won't detail here, but if you research Infrared conversions you may see some of what I mean. Also, a PNS is perfect for an artist who doesn't want to be burdened down with interchangeable lenses and gear.

P.S. A great thing you are doing.


Thanks, but could the X-A3 with kit lens, be Do-able??

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Apr 14, 2020 10:23:36   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
https://www.spencerscamera.com/store/store_product_detail.cfm?Product_ID=4&Category_ID=1&Sub_Category_ID=1

https://www.lifepixel.com/product-category/our-services/full-spectrum-camera-conversion?gclid=CjwKCAjwvtX0BRAFEiwAGWJyZBabK-6JbVJw9MH_XBr-ok1ItrV7Z5yXm-GX9LwCInQwM2DTtsaF7hoCGu8QAvD_BwE

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Apr 14, 2020 10:33:00   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
digit-up wrote:
Thanks, but could the X-A3 with kit lens, be Do-able??


I thought your camera was a Point-N-Shoot. My misunderstanding. Yes the camera can be adapted to IR (the price runs about $250). Interchangeable lenses are more important for pure photographers than artists who just need a camera for reference. But a good camera with interchangeable lenses may change him from a pure painter, to let's say, more of a photo artist.

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Apr 14, 2020 11:07:47   #
Steved3604
 
This is not digital -- but is analog. Check out the Rollei/Agfa 400 film. When developed in HC 110 64 or 128 to one mix --- It is outstanding. Not as convenient as digital -- but striking results.

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Apr 15, 2020 05:58:55   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Fotoartist said in part: "Actually a Point-N-Shoot is my preferred Infrared camera for many reasons "

You can convert an older small camera in about an hour in a few simple steps. Making it full spectra and using low-cost filters opens a whole world of IR and Color IR to the art. In my early oil painting era, I would cheat by photographing a subject and then projecting the image on canvas and sketching and painting using the projected image as a guide. Hey, it worked and no one was the wiser that I did not have good sketching skills.

The range of filters is well explained in "choosing a filter":
https://kolarivision.com/articles/choosing-a-filter/

Simple conversion of an older low-cost camera:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-547605-1.html

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Apr 15, 2020 06:39:07   #
Jeffcs Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
 
Check out Lifepixel I had a PenF converted they did an awesome conversation for me

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Apr 15, 2020 09:53:52   #
rodpark2 Loc: Dallas, Tx
 
I've had several cameras converted with excellent results. A point n shoot works great, but I've also had a Nikon D40, and D7000 as well as a Canon 40D converted. The live view option on a camera allows you to see the infrared image on the screen before you take the pictures, not all cameras have the option. Mirrorless are naturally live view. My guy listed here wants to know the primary lens to be used in order to set the camera up for that lens. If he doesn't have the lens you'd need to send it with the camera. Everything about dealing with him has been outstanding! I get more keepers from IR than other normal work, probably because of the abstract quality and unusual appearance. My 6 megapixel D40 shots are equal to my D7000 for most purposes. I usually shoot is "saturated color jpegs" and then edit to either B&W or color. Each camera produces different images and playing with settings allows lots of control. There are nearly always surprises and for a 55 year vet
of photography surprise is welcomed at times. I recommend wide angel lenses for focus reliability and some lenses have hot spots and don't work as well and Isaac usually konws what works and doesn't.

https://www.isaacszabo.com/infrared.html









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Apr 15, 2020 10:32:03   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
rodpark2 wrote:
I've had several cameras converted with excellent results. A point n shoot works great, but I've also had a Nikon D40, and D7000 as well as a Canon 40D converted. The live view option on a camera allows you to see the infrared image on the screen before you take the pictures, not all cameras have the option. Mirrorless are naturally live view. My guy listed here wants to know the primary lens to be used in order to set the camera up for that lens. If he doesn't have the lens you'd need to send it with the camera. Everything about dealing with him has been outstanding! I get more keepers from IR than other normal work, probably because of the abstract quality and unusual appearance. My 6 megapixel D40 shots are equal to my D7000 for most purposes. I usually shoot is "saturated color jpegs" and then edit to either B&W or color. Each camera produces different images and playing with settings allows lots of control. There are nearly always surprises and for a 55 year vet
of photography surprise is welcomed at times. I recommend wide angel lenses for focus reliability and some lenses have hot spots and don't work as well and Isaac usually konws what works and doesn't.

https://www.isaacszabo.com/infrared.html
I've had several cameras converted with excellent ... (show quote)

Thank you very much ......all!!!....RJM

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Apr 15, 2020 10:38:32   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I thought your camera was a Point-N-Shoot. My misunderstanding. Yes the camera can be adapted to IR (the price runs about $250). Interchangeable lenses are more important for pure photographers than artists who just need a camera for reference. But a good camera with interchangeable lenses may change him from a pure painter, to let's say, more of a photo artist.


I had my Panasonic TC-3 compact zoom P&S converted to 'Full spectrum' IR camera with several different wave length IR filter, it's very easy and simple to use and getting great result! It doesn't need to be a DSLR.

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Apr 15, 2020 12:52:46   #
Nicholas DeSciose
 
Lifepixel.com knows everything there is to know about infrared.

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Apr 15, 2020 13:15:37   #
twowindsbear
 
Steved3604 wrote:
This is not digital -- but is analog. Check out the Rollei/Agfa 400 film. When developed in HC 110 64 or 128 to one mix --- It is outstanding. Not as convenient as digital -- but striking results.


What's NOT digital?

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Apr 15, 2020 16:03:42   #
spaceytracey Loc: East Glacier Park, MT
 
rodpark2 wrote:
I've had several cameras converted with excellent results. A point n shoot works great, but I've also had a Nikon D40, and D7000 as well as a Canon 40D converted. The live view option on a camera allows you to see the infrared image on the screen before you take the pictures, not all cameras have the option. Mirrorless are naturally live view. My guy listed here wants to know the primary lens to be used in order to set the camera up for that lens. If he doesn't have the lens you'd need to send it with the camera. Everything about dealing with him has been outstanding! I get more keepers from IR than other normal work, probably because of the abstract quality and unusual appearance. My 6 megapixel D40 shots are equal to my D7000 for most purposes. I usually shoot is "saturated color jpegs" and then edit to either B&W or color. Each camera produces different images and playing with settings allows lots of control. There are nearly always surprises and for a 55 year vet
of photography surprise is welcomed at times. I recommend wide angel lenses for focus reliability and some lenses have hot spots and don't work as well and Isaac usually konws what works and doesn't.

https://www.isaacszabo.com/infrared.html
I've had several cameras converted with excellent ... (show quote)


Wow! Amazing landscapes!

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Apr 15, 2020 16:14:37   #
MW
 
dpullum wrote:


..In my early oil painting era, I would cheat by photographing a subject and then projecting the image on canvas and sketching and painting using the projected image as a guide. Hey, it worked and no one was the wiser that I did not have good sketching skills.


DON’T apologize! Some old masters in centuries past did exactly that with a camera obscura. Norman Rockwell did the same with 20th century cameras.

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