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Apr 6, 2020 22:33:57   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Can you change exposure at ISO, Aperture or Speed?
Would that give better control knowing what you will get?

It seems confusing using Exposure Compensation.
Do you know what it is changing in your camera?
If it changes aperture, it will change depth of field. That might not be what I want.
So I see how confusing it is because I am not in control.

Am I being correct in this matter.
Or photographers don't care about the end result of their pictures.

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Apr 6, 2020 22:40:10   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Just to fiddle with it.

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Apr 6, 2020 22:40:40   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
kenArchi wrote:
Can you change exposure at ISO, Aperture or Speed?
Would that give better control knowing what you will get?

It seems confusing using Exposure Compensation.
Do you know what it is changing in your camera?
If it changes aperture, it will change depth of field. That might not be what I want.
So I see how confusing it is because I am not in control.

Am I being correct in this matter.
Or photographers don't care about the end result of their pictures.

I leave mine on zero, never have to give it a thought.

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Apr 6, 2020 22:44:14   #
User ID
 
kenArchi wrote:
Can you change exposure at ISO, Aperture or Speed?
Would that give better control knowing what you will get?

It seems confusing using Exposure Compensation.
Do you know what it is changing in your camera?
If it changes aperture, it will change depth of field. That might not be what I want.
So I see how confusing it is because I am not in control.

Am I being correct in this matter.
Or photographers don't care about the end result of their pictures.


That’s right. All of it.

And the dial is mainly for appearance sake.

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Apr 6, 2020 22:52:30   #
bleirer
 
Most cameras use ISO until they run into a limit, then it depends on the camera. In manual mode with auto iso, mine does shutter speed next but doesn't change the displayed shutter speed.

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Apr 6, 2020 22:53:24   #
User ID
 
Such a boring thread ... everyone agreeing like that. Where’s you know who and whatziz face when we really need them to remind us that if we all shoot raw and read weather maps and carry a pocket altimeter we’d never need those +\~ dials anywho !

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Apr 6, 2020 22:56:07   #
btbg
 
kenArchi wrote:
Can you change exposure at ISO, Aperture or Speed?
Would that give better control knowing what you will get?

It seems confusing using Exposure Compensation.
Do you know what it is changing in your camera?
If it changes aperture, it will change depth of field. That might not be what I want.
So I see how confusing it is because I am not in control.

Am I being correct in this matter.
Or photographers don't care about the end result of their pictures.


I use exposure compensation all the time. It works great in any situation where the camera's metering system will either under or overexpose. Example, shooting in snow which the camera's light meter tends to make into a medium grey tone.

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Apr 6, 2020 23:01:43   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
btbg wrote:
I use exposure compensation all the time. It works great in any situation where the camera's metering system will either under or overexpose. Example, shooting in snow which the camera's light meter tends to make into a medium grey tone.

Ever heard of spot metering?

It works.

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Apr 6, 2020 23:02:13   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
btbg wrote:
I use exposure compensation all the time. It works great in any situation where the camera's metering system will either under or overexpose. Example, shooting in snow which the camera's light meter tends to make into a medium grey tone.



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Apr 6, 2020 23:05:23   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The response above to practice / investigate is really what you need to do. Different bodies have different external dials, so there can't be a generalization. If you fix the ISO, EC can only modify the opposite of the Shutter or Aperture priorities. Confirm this observation on your camera.

But, when you have the camera in AUTO-ISO, it can be more difficult to predict the camera behavior. Many cameras are biased toward maintaining a lower ISO, so your EC changes in AUTO-ISO may influence the ISO first. Again, confirm this observation on your camera, for all three modes: Aperture, Shutter and Professional.

The newest advanced cameras now support EC in Manual, letting you define an exposure + / - to the meter's 0-mark while using AUTO-ISO where the camera then maintains that meter position as you adjust the Shutter or Aperture parameters.

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Apr 6, 2020 23:08:22   #
bleirer
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Ever heard of spot metering?

It works.


I don't need no stinkin' meter....

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Apr 6, 2020 23:09:06   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
bleirer wrote:
Most cameras use ISO until they run into a limit, then it depends on the camera. In manual mode with auto iso, mine does shutter speed next but doesn't change the displayed shutter speed.


as said most cameras have auto ISO and manual SS and aperture and the EC will vary the ISO - this is a really good way to operate other than fully manual. But here is the kicker, the value of using EC is knowing when and how much to use !

Oh, and putting it on a dial on the top of the camera may be the most user friendly way to change it .
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Apr 6, 2020 23:11:43   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Disregard.

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Apr 6, 2020 23:13:29   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
kenArchi wrote:
Can you change exposure at ISO, Aperture or Speed?
Would that give better control knowing what you will get?

It seems confusing using Exposure Compensation.
Do you know what it is changing in your camera?
If it changes aperture, it will change depth of field. That might not be what I want.
So I see how confusing it is because I am not in control.

Am I being correct in this matter.
Or photographers don't care about the end result of their pictures.


It helps when you are using Auto ISO in manual exposure mode. Less important if using spot metering.

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Apr 6, 2020 23:19:34   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
imagemeister wrote:
as said most cameras have auto ISO and manual SS and aperture and the EC will vary the ISO - this is a really good way to operate other than fully manual. But here is the kicker, the value of using EC is knowing when and how much to use !

Oh, and putting it on a dial on the top of the camera may be the most user friendly way to change it .
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With my Z7 I can set the manual focus ring to control EC. So far that’s the friendly way to change it. Especially since it’s mirrorless and I can see exactly how much I’m getting in the viewfinder.

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