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Mar 30, 2020 20:44:11   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
BROOKS INSTATUTE of PHOTOGRAPHY.
BDE BASIC DAYLIGHT EXPOSURE:

Sunlight BDE BASIC DAYLIGHT EXPOSURE.
Sun (silhouette) 2 stops less than BDE
Sun (Sand, Snow) 1 stop less than BDE
Sun (Backlight subject) 2 stops less than BDE
Sun (Haze) 1 stop more than BDE
Overcast (normal) 2 stops more than BDE
Open Shade* 3 Stops more than BDE
Lighted Signs 5 stops more than BDE
Stage Shows 5-7 stops more than BDE
Floodlight Shows 7 stops more than BDE
Theater Districts 6 stops more than BDE
Night Windows 6 stops more than BDE
Fireworks 6 stops more than BDE
Stadium Sports 6 stops more than BDE
Offices (fluorescents) 6nstops more than BDE
Night Street Scenes 7 stops more than BDE
Amusement arks 8 stops more than BDE
Home Interiors (night) 8 to 9.5 stops more than BDE
School Auditoriums 9 stops more than BDE
Close Ups (candlelight) 11 stops more than BDE
Floodlight Buildings 11 stops more than BDE
City Skylines (Distant) 13 stops more than BDE

BDE is f 16 were shutter speed is 1/ISO

*Important note, OPEN SHADE is a vary old designation from the time before WW II, Open shade is found in large metropolitan areas (cities) with old large tall buildings. Think this way, you are viewing a scene down a wide street or boulevard, in a city with tall whitish buildings, (it was hot in the summer months and there was little to no air conditioning, so building were built to reflect heat away and so the sun light). To your left is were the sun is, BUT the tall building is blocking it from the street. The buildings on your right are reflecting the sun light, and the sun is being reflected down the sides of the buildings to the street where you are standing. That street is illuminated by sunlight that was bounced off the two buildings and their windows and has arrived at the street level. That light is referred to as "OPEN SHADE" and was vary often published as a drawing in the instructions that came with the film. This is THE classic definition of OPEN SHADE. OPEN SHADE is a technical definition of the light found under these conditions.

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Mar 30, 2020 20:54:44   #
rberman
 
Thanks Tim,
I really appreciate you sending that. Peace and good health. Richard

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Mar 30, 2020 20:59:25   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
You and everyone is welcome to this information. Several times I had hit a brick wall and just pulled this piece of paper out and used it's advice. I found it either right on spot or so close that it did not matter for an error.

I am now putting it back in my main camera bag!

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Mar 30, 2020 21:12:30   #
rberman
 
I’m sure I’ll find good use for it. I am a 75 year old student of photography using a Hasselblad 500CM film camera and Ansel Adams zone system for exposure. Also using his books,the camera, the negative,and the print as my textbooks. I will be starting to develop my film and printing to further control my images. I guess you might call that pre-digital post processing. I am really enjoying the zen quality and the intentionality of his approach and your writings and knowledge just adds fuel to the fire. So thanks again. Peace. Richard.

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Mar 30, 2020 21:32:05   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rberman wrote:
I’m sure I’ll find good use for it. I am a 75 year old student of photography using a Hasselblad 500CM film camera and Ansel Adams zone system for exposure. Also using his books,the camera, the negative,and the print as my textbooks. I will be starting to develop my film and printing to further control my images. I guess you might call that pre-digital post processing. I am really enjoying the zen quality and the intentionality of his approach and your writings and knowledge just adds fuel to the fire. So thanks again. Peace. Richard.
I’m sure I’ll find good use for it. I am a 75 yea... (show quote)


Ansel Adams, the zone system and a Hassy - can’t get more Zen and and sophisticated than that with film. Developing and printing your own film will complete the experience, and I congratulate you for exploring it. I predict that the first time you see an image come up in the developer that you exposed (if you haven’t already) will be magic. Have you built your darkroom yet?

Cheers

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Mar 30, 2020 21:34:44   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
Timmers wrote:

BDE BASIC DAYLIGHT EXPOSURE:


Always been in my camera bag. Got mine from Hasselblad.

Joe


(Download)

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Mar 30, 2020 21:42:36   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
rberman wrote:
I’m sure I’ll find good use for it. I am a 75 year old student of photography using a Hasselblad 500CM film camera and Ansel Adams zone system for exposure. Also using his books,the camera, the negative,and the print as my textbooks. I will be starting to develop my film and printing to further control my images. I guess you might call that pre-digital post processing. I am really enjoying the zen quality and the intentionality of his approach and your writings and knowledge just adds fuel to the fire. So thanks again. Peace. Richard.
I’m sure I’ll find good use for it. I am a 75 yea... (show quote)


Ansel Adams used an exposure meter.

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Mar 30, 2020 21:43:17   #
rberman
 
I haven’t built a darkroom yet. I signed up for a class at The Bakers Photo Lab in Portland Maine to be able to learn and then rent their darkroom facilities but it just got cancelled because of the pandemic As a young guy I did have a darkroom and still remember the magic of seeing my first print. Unfortunately that’s about all I remember from back then and thus the class I signed up for. Sometimes I feel like a dinosaur compared to my digital buddies and even feel jealous about what they can do in post processing but this is my path right now and I’m enjoying it a lot. Thanks again for your inspiration. Peace. Richard

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Mar 30, 2020 21:53:32   #
rberman
 
Ansel Adams did use a spot meter but on one of his most famous images he didn't have his meter but remembered the luminosity of the moon and was able to figure out his exposure. So these other guides could be very useful.

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Mar 30, 2020 22:39:43   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Timmers wrote:
BROOKS INSTATUTE of PHOTOGRAPHY.
BDE BASIC DAYLIGHT EXPOSURE:

Sunlight BDE BASIC DAYLIGHT EXPOSURE.
Sun (silhouette) 2 stops less than BDE
Sun (Sand, Snow) 1 stop less than BDE
Sun (Backlight subject) 2 stops less than BDE
Sun (Haze) 1 stop more than BDE
Overcast (normal) 2 stops more than BDE
Open Shade* 3 Stops more than BDE
Lighted Signs 5 stops more than BDE
Stage Shows 5-7 stops more than BDE
Floodlight Shows 7 stops more than BDE
Theater Districts 6 stops more than BDE
Night Windows 6 stops more than BDE
Fireworks 6 stops more than BDE
Stadium Sports 6 stops more than BDE
Offices (fluorescents) 6nstops more than BDE
Night Street Scenes 7 stops more than BDE
Amusement arks 8 stops more than BDE
Home Interiors (night) 8 to 9.5 stops more than BDE
School Auditoriums 9 stops more than BDE
Close Ups (candlelight) 11 stops more than BDE
Floodlight Buildings 11 stops more than BDE
City Skylines (Distant) 13 stops more than BDE

BDE is f 16 were shutter speed is 1/ISO

*Important note, OPEN SHADE is a vary old designation from the time before WW II, Open shade is found in large metropolitan areas (cities) with old large tall buildings. Think this way, you are viewing a scene down a wide street or boulevard, in a city with tall whitish buildings, (it was hot in the summer months and there was little to no air conditioning, so building were built to reflect heat away and so the sun light). To your left is were the sun is, BUT the tall building is blocking it from the street. The buildings on your right are reflecting the sun light, and the sun is being reflected down the sides of the buildings to the street where you are standing. That street is illuminated by sunlight that was bounced off the two buildings and their windows and has arrived at the street level. That light is referred to as "OPEN SHADE" and was vary often published as a drawing in the instructions that came with the film. This is THE classic definition of OPEN SHADE. OPEN SHADE is a technical definition of the light found under these conditions.
BROOKS INSTATUTE of PHOTOGRAPHY. br BDE BASIC DAYL... (show quote)


From Paul Meyer, a former instructor at Brooks before it went bankrupt.


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Mar 31, 2020 08:17:26   #
rberman
 
Wow a original. Love the footcandles. Older Ansel Adams books use footcandles a lot.

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Mar 31, 2020 08:18:07   #
Camera Man Loc: Michigan
 
Thank you for the great information I never hear of open shade. Thanks again

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Mar 31, 2020 10:10:25   #
WJB Loc: Salisbury, MD
 
Ysarex wrote:
Always been in my camera bag. Got mine from Hasselblad.

Joe


Now it will be in mine. Thanks, Joe

Bill

p.s. I sent a copy to my son-in-law, a budding photographer.

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Mar 31, 2020 10:43:10   #
n4jee Loc: New Bern, NC
 
I hated to see Brooks Institute go under. When I lived in Santa Barbara in the 60"s and 70's I frequently visited their camera store looking for bargains in used equipment. Walking the halls and viewing the student work was inspiring.
You would frequently see 20 or so people standing around with view cameras pointed at a gas station or other business. Their method of HDR was to expose once using sunlight then wait around till the business turned its lights on for the evening and take a second exposure on the same sheet of film.
That school turned out some fine photographers.

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Mar 31, 2020 10:58:03   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The zen experience comes from the mind not from the method. Only paraphrasing one might say that method follows mind.
TriX wrote:
Ansel Adams, the zone system and a Hassy - can’t get more Zen and and sophisticated than that with film. Developing and printing your own film will complete the experience, and I congratulate you for exploring it. I predict that the first time you see an image come up in the developer that you exposed (if you haven’t already) will be magic. Have you built your darkroom yet?

Cheers

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