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Mar 29, 2020 06:09:45   #
Burtzy Loc: Bronx N.Y. & Simi Valley, CA
 
I couldn't have expressed it better. Yes as well.

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Mar 29, 2020 06:14:59   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Burtzy wrote:
I couldn't have expressed it better. Yes as well.


Whom are you referring too?

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Mar 29, 2020 07:16:55   #
GAS496 Loc: Arizona
 
Great timing with your post. The answer for me is yes absolutely! I just received an email from a new company that their glass film holders for my 8x10 view camera will be shipping in April. I have been waiting for almost a year for them so I can start shooting with glass dry plates just like they did 100 years ago.

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Mar 29, 2020 08:07:31   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
fuminous wrote:
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photographers 100 years ago?

I ask because of reading, "Photographic Amusements, Including A Description of a Number of Novel Effects Obtainable with the Camera" by- Walter E. Woodbury, - Revised and Enlarged by Frank R. Fraprie-Ninth Edition- 1922  Copyright- 1896... and admit to a good bit of smugness when discussed is the hilarity of having the photographer- or others- appear to be shaking hands with themselves or flouting the laws of time and space. But, I also must allow a good bit of respect for these early shutterbugs given the difficulty of doing such things IN CAMERA!. Even a simple silhouette image becomes a major undertaking when background, reflectors- position of the window... lots of things must be considered...

There are fun things, too: "Photo in a Bottle" - that is, photographic emulsion being sloshed about to coat the interior of a bottle, letting it dry and taping a negative to the bottle's exterior then, heading into sunshine with a finger up the bottle's orifice so it can be turned for an even exposure. Simply pour developer, stop and fixer into the bottle for processing. And, "electric photographs" - various metal objects (coins a favorite) placed on a dry plate and passing a current "exposes" the silver halides without visible light..

One novelty offered is having an image of your favorite scenic, or perhaps Uncle Fred, that reveals itself only when its temperature reaches whatever temperature hog fat liquifies and turns transparent. I suppose, if the image was a bit risqué', it would be a hoot in some Wisconsin ice fishing shack. Regardless, instruction for making this delightful, "Disappearing Photograph" is provided and the materials list includes: white wax, hog lard, a strip of "gold beater's skin" and strong glue. Not mentioned is the point at which lard turns rancid... No doubt this novelty is best suited for cooler regions.

How 'bout "Post Mortem" photographs... First, have a negative of the departed one; either provided by the family or, taken yourself.  Then, mix together various amounts of, "... bichromate of ammonia, albumen, grape sugar, bichromate of potash, honey..." plus other ingredients which combined and gently heated over a spirit lamp, and, while still warm, is applied evenly to a glass plate, which, when dry, is ready to be exposed.  Place the glass plate and afore mentioned negative onto a printing frame and expose to the sun for two to five minutes.  Next, remove the negative and place the exposed plate in a dark, damp place to absorb moisture.   When the plate becomes tacky, evenly dust over it the cremated remains of the departed one (the guy in the negative)... which will, "  ... adhere to the parts unexposed to light, and a portrait is obtained composed entirely of the person it represents, or rather what is left of him." But wait! There's more!! "When fully developed the excess of powder is dusted off and the film coated with collodion.  It is then well washed to remove the bichromate salt.  The film can, if desired, be detached and transferred to ivory, wood, or any other support."  
For me... all I can imagine is something along the line of Elvis on black velvet...

So, again: Would you be a photographer 100 years ago?
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photogr... (show quote)


In spite of extensive work in darkrooms, I doubt I would have had the patience for 100 year old technology. >Alan

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Mar 29, 2020 08:20:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
1920 wasn't primitive enough to have kept me away from photography.

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Mar 29, 2020 08:33:34   #
cdayton
 
Sure. Here I am starting off on a shoot over 80 years ago - I assume I would have done the same a mere 20 years earlier.

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Mar 29, 2020 09:50:00   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
fuminous wrote:
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photographers 100 years ago?

I ask because of reading, "Photographic Amusements, Including A Description of a Number of Novel Effects Obtainable with the Camera" by- Walter E. Woodbury, - Revised and Enlarged by Frank R. Fraprie-Ninth Edition- 1922  Copyright- 1896... and admit to a good bit of smugness when discussed is the hilarity of having the photographer- or others- appear to be shaking hands with themselves or flouting the laws of time and space. But, I also must allow a good bit of respect for these early shutterbugs given the difficulty of doing such things IN CAMERA!. Even a simple silhouette image becomes a major undertaking when background, reflectors- position of the window... lots of things must be considered...

There are fun things, too: "Photo in a Bottle" - that is, photographic emulsion being sloshed about to coat the interior of a bottle, letting it dry and taping a negative to the bottle's exterior then, heading into sunshine with a finger up the bottle's orifice so it can be turned for an even exposure. Simply pour developer, stop and fixer into the bottle for processing. And, "electric photographs" - various metal objects (coins a favorite) placed on a dry plate and passing a current "exposes" the silver halides without visible light..

One novelty offered is having an image of your favorite scenic, or perhaps Uncle Fred, that reveals itself only when its temperature reaches whatever temperature hog fat liquifies and turns transparent. I suppose, if the image was a bit risqué', it would be a hoot in some Wisconsin ice fishing shack. Regardless, instruction for making this delightful, "Disappearing Photograph" is provided and the materials list includes: white wax, hog lard, a strip of "gold beater's skin" and strong glue. Not mentioned is the point at which lard turns rancid... No doubt this novelty is best suited for cooler regions.

How 'bout "Post Mortem" photographs... First, have a negative of the departed one; either provided by the family or, taken yourself.  Then, mix together various amounts of, "... bichromate of ammonia, albumen, grape sugar, bichromate of potash, honey..." plus other ingredients which combined and gently heated over a spirit lamp, and, while still warm, is applied evenly to a glass plate, which, when dry, is ready to be exposed.  Place the glass plate and afore mentioned negative onto a printing frame and expose to the sun for two to five minutes.  Next, remove the negative and place the exposed plate in a dark, damp place to absorb moisture.   When the plate becomes tacky, evenly dust over it the cremated remains of the departed one (the guy in the negative)... which will, "  ... adhere to the parts unexposed to light, and a portrait is obtained composed entirely of the person it represents, or rather what is left of him." But wait! There's more!! "When fully developed the excess of powder is dusted off and the film coated with collodion.  It is then well washed to remove the bichromate salt.  The film can, if desired, be detached and transferred to ivory, wood, or any other support."  
For me... all I can imagine is something along the line of Elvis on black velvet...

So, again: Would you be a photographer 100 years ago?
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photogr... (show quote)

Nope!!! Cuz I wasn’t even born then..duh!!

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Mar 29, 2020 09:50:01   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
fuminous wrote:
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photographers 100 years ago?

I ask because of reading, "Photographic Amusements, Including A Description of a Number of Novel Effects Obtainable with the Camera" by- Walter E. Woodbury, - Revised and Enlarged by Frank R. Fraprie-Ninth Edition- 1922  Copyright- 1896... and admit to a good bit of smugness when discussed is the hilarity of having the photographer- or others- appear to be shaking hands with themselves or flouting the laws of time and space. But, I also must allow a good bit of respect for these early shutterbugs given the difficulty of doing such things IN CAMERA!. Even a simple silhouette image becomes a major undertaking when background, reflectors- position of the window... lots of things must be considered...

There are fun things, too: "Photo in a Bottle" - that is, photographic emulsion being sloshed about to coat the interior of a bottle, letting it dry and taping a negative to the bottle's exterior then, heading into sunshine with a finger up the bottle's orifice so it can be turned for an even exposure. Simply pour developer, stop and fixer into the bottle for processing. And, "electric photographs" - various metal objects (coins a favorite) placed on a dry plate and passing a current "exposes" the silver halides without visible light..

One novelty offered is having an image of your favorite scenic, or perhaps Uncle Fred, that reveals itself only when its temperature reaches whatever temperature hog fat liquifies and turns transparent. I suppose, if the image was a bit risqué', it would be a hoot in some Wisconsin ice fishing shack. Regardless, instruction for making this delightful, "Disappearing Photograph" is provided and the materials list includes: white wax, hog lard, a strip of "gold beater's skin" and strong glue. Not mentioned is the point at which lard turns rancid... No doubt this novelty is best suited for cooler regions.

How 'bout "Post Mortem" photographs... First, have a negative of the departed one; either provided by the family or, taken yourself.  Then, mix together various amounts of, "... bichromate of ammonia, albumen, grape sugar, bichromate of potash, honey..." plus other ingredients which combined and gently heated over a spirit lamp, and, while still warm, is applied evenly to a glass plate, which, when dry, is ready to be exposed.  Place the glass plate and afore mentioned negative onto a printing frame and expose to the sun for two to five minutes.  Next, remove the negative and place the exposed plate in a dark, damp place to absorb moisture.   When the plate becomes tacky, evenly dust over it the cremated remains of the departed one (the guy in the negative)... which will, "  ... adhere to the parts unexposed to light, and a portrait is obtained composed entirely of the person it represents, or rather what is left of him." But wait! There's more!! "When fully developed the excess of powder is dusted off and the film coated with collodion.  It is then well washed to remove the bichromate salt.  The film can, if desired, be detached and transferred to ivory, wood, or any other support."  
For me... all I can imagine is something along the line of Elvis on black velvet...

So, again: Would you be a photographer 100 years ago?
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photogr... (show quote)


I would be as I am today. A person who does it just for fun. I would have one of those folding cameras like I have from my grandfather.

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Mar 29, 2020 09:52:25   #
KoniOmegaflex Loc: Central KY
 
My mother saved her money from picking blackberries and bought a camera in 1918 to 1920 and would go to a local post office and take photos of people for money. I've had people tell me that if it hadn't been for her they would have no pictures of themselves at that time.

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Mar 29, 2020 09:55:29   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Post office pictures sometimes have a different meaning

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Mar 29, 2020 10:36:09   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Post office pictures sometimes have a different meaning



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Mar 29, 2020 10:42:55   #
ornault
 
Well, almost 50 years ago was still pretty advanced for me! I miss my old Argus "seventy-five". Photography was certainly more of a mystery back then...



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Mar 29, 2020 10:45:52   #
Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.
 
So, again: Would you be a photographer 100 years ago?[/quote]

I WAS! (Well, almost:o)
Papa Joe

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Mar 29, 2020 10:52:04   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
fuminous wrote:
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photographers 100 years ago?

I ask because of reading, "Photographic Amusements, Including A Description of a Number of Novel Effects Obtainable with the Camera" by- Walter E. Woodbury, - Revised and Enlarged by Frank R. Fraprie-Ninth Edition- 1922  Copyright- 1896... and admit to a good bit of smugness when discussed is the hilarity of having the photographer- or others- appear to be shaking hands with themselves or flouting the laws of time and space. But, I also must allow a good bit of respect for these early shutterbugs given the difficulty of doing such things IN CAMERA!. Even a simple silhouette image becomes a major undertaking when background, reflectors- position of the window... lots of things must be considered...

There are fun things, too: "Photo in a Bottle" - that is, photographic emulsion being sloshed about to coat the interior of a bottle, letting it dry and taping a negative to the bottle's exterior then, heading into sunshine with a finger up the bottle's orifice so it can be turned for an even exposure. Simply pour developer, stop and fixer into the bottle for processing. And, "electric photographs" - various metal objects (coins a favorite) placed on a dry plate and passing a current "exposes" the silver halides without visible light..

One novelty offered is having an image of your favorite scenic, or perhaps Uncle Fred, that reveals itself only when its temperature reaches whatever temperature hog fat liquifies and turns transparent. I suppose, if the image was a bit risqué', it would be a hoot in some Wisconsin ice fishing shack. Regardless, instruction for making this delightful, "Disappearing Photograph" is provided and the materials list includes: white wax, hog lard, a strip of "gold beater's skin" and strong glue. Not mentioned is the point at which lard turns rancid... No doubt this novelty is best suited for cooler regions.

How 'bout "Post Mortem" photographs... First, have a negative of the departed one; either provided by the family or, taken yourself.  Then, mix together various amounts of, "... bichromate of ammonia, albumen, grape sugar, bichromate of potash, honey..." plus other ingredients which combined and gently heated over a spirit lamp, and, while still warm, is applied evenly to a glass plate, which, when dry, is ready to be exposed.  Place the glass plate and afore mentioned negative onto a printing frame and expose to the sun for two to five minutes.  Next, remove the negative and place the exposed plate in a dark, damp place to absorb moisture.   When the plate becomes tacky, evenly dust over it the cremated remains of the departed one (the guy in the negative)... which will, "  ... adhere to the parts unexposed to light, and a portrait is obtained composed entirely of the person it represents, or rather what is left of him." But wait! There's more!! "When fully developed the excess of powder is dusted off and the film coated with collodion.  It is then well washed to remove the bichromate salt.  The film can, if desired, be detached and transferred to ivory, wood, or any other support."  
For me... all I can imagine is something along the line of Elvis on black velvet...

So, again: Would you be a photographer 100 years ago?
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photogr... (show quote)


I'm not sure that I could have afforded the $$$ or apprenticeship time required.
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

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Mar 29, 2020 10:55:56   #
BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
fuminous wrote:
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photographers 100 years ago?

I ask because of reading, "Photographic Amusements, Including A Description of a Number of Novel Effects Obtainable with the Camera" by- Walter E. Woodbury, - Revised and Enlarged by Frank R. Fraprie-Ninth Edition- 1922  Copyright- 1896... and admit to a good bit of smugness when discussed is the hilarity of having the photographer- or others- appear to be shaking hands with themselves or flouting the laws of time and space. But, I also must allow a good bit of respect for these early shutterbugs given the difficulty of doing such things IN CAMERA!. Even a simple silhouette image becomes a major undertaking when background, reflectors- position of the window... lots of things must be considered...

There are fun things, too: "Photo in a Bottle" - that is, photographic emulsion being sloshed about to coat the interior of a bottle, letting it dry and taping a negative to the bottle's exterior then, heading into sunshine with a finger up the bottle's orifice so it can be turned for an even exposure. Simply pour developer, stop and fixer into the bottle for processing. And, "electric photographs" - various metal objects (coins a favorite) placed on a dry plate and passing a current "exposes" the silver halides without visible light..

One novelty offered is having an image of your favorite scenic, or perhaps Uncle Fred, that reveals itself only when its temperature reaches whatever temperature hog fat liquifies and turns transparent. I suppose, if the image was a bit risqué', it would be a hoot in some Wisconsin ice fishing shack. Regardless, instruction for making this delightful, "Disappearing Photograph" is provided and the materials list includes: white wax, hog lard, a strip of "gold beater's skin" and strong glue. Not mentioned is the point at which lard turns rancid... No doubt this novelty is best suited for cooler regions.

How 'bout "Post Mortem" photographs... First, have a negative of the departed one; either provided by the family or, taken yourself.  Then, mix together various amounts of, "... bichromate of ammonia, albumen, grape sugar, bichromate of potash, honey..." plus other ingredients which combined and gently heated over a spirit lamp, and, while still warm, is applied evenly to a glass plate, which, when dry, is ready to be exposed.  Place the glass plate and afore mentioned negative onto a printing frame and expose to the sun for two to five minutes.  Next, remove the negative and place the exposed plate in a dark, damp place to absorb moisture.   When the plate becomes tacky, evenly dust over it the cremated remains of the departed one (the guy in the negative)... which will, "  ... adhere to the parts unexposed to light, and a portrait is obtained composed entirely of the person it represents, or rather what is left of him." But wait! There's more!! "When fully developed the excess of powder is dusted off and the film coated with collodion.  It is then well washed to remove the bichromate salt.  The film can, if desired, be detached and transferred to ivory, wood, or any other support."  
For me... all I can imagine is something along the line of Elvis on black velvet...

So, again: Would you be a photographer 100 years ago?
How many of us today would be enthusiastic photogr... (show quote)


Probably. 100 years ago would put us in the time frame of a young, budding photographer named Ansel Adams who had his first photos published in 1921. According to Wikipedia, also during that time were photo magazines, camera clubs, and studios so the interest in and enthusiasm for photography was well established.

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