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Scott Kelby Says Don't Use TIFF Files, Ever!
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Mar 26, 2020 17:51:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
"Ever" - really???

This title is the kind of typical nonsense that confuses people.

I have a scanner which produces JPEG files and it produces TIFF files.
Somebody would read this title and then create JPEG files only ..... really???


Um, did you quote the right person???

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Mar 26, 2020 18:38:44   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
rehess wrote:
Size of file should not affect processing time.
Processing time is affected by image size.
Only I/O is affected by file size.


So you are telling me that a large TIFF can be imported, loaded, opened, saved and closed at the same speed as a small jpeg? It may be fractions of a second, but it is longer and when image files are in mass like a day's high speed bursts of sports, birds etc it does definitely add to the time taken.
I said processing, which to me includes all of those and the actual time to edit.

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Mar 26, 2020 19:17:19   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
robertjerl wrote:
So you are telling me that a large TIFF can be imported, loaded, opened, saved and closed at the same speed as a small jpeg? It may be fractions of a second, but it is longer and when image files are in mass like a day's high speed bursts of sports, birds etc it does definitely add to the time taken.
I said processing, which to me includes all of those and the actual time to edit.

I said that size of a file affects I/O time. If the same given image is stored in a "small" JPEG and a "large" TIFF, the I/O time will be different, but I am not sure how the difference will work, because the software will have to do more work on the JPEG version {because of the compression involved}. However, "processing" the file {which to a former software engineer like me, excludes I/O} will be the same if the images are the same.

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Mar 26, 2020 20:16:44   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
As a Photoshop user, I save files as PSD. I usually have multilayer files, which can't be saved as JPEG. I wondered if TIFF files were larger than PSD, so I tried saving one of my layered PSD files as TIFF. The PSD file was 247 Mb, and the TIFF file was 257. So larger, but not much. For people who don't have PS, what format besides TIFF could you save layered files in?

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Mar 26, 2020 20:36:02   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
rehess wrote:
I said that size of a file affects I/O time. If the same given image is stored in a "small" JPEG and a "large" TIFF, the I/O time will be different, but I am not sure how the difference will work, because the software will have to do more work on the JPEG version {because of the compression involved}. However, "processing" the file {which to a former software engineer like me, excludes I/O} will be the same if the images are the same.


OK, and I guess I should have used "same time" instead of "same speed".

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Mar 26, 2020 20:45:50   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
For people who don't have PS, what format besides TIFF could you save layered files in?


PNG is an option.

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