JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Chit-Chat = non-photography talk

Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI

Children are no more 'vectors' for this thing than are other people. Most children who are infected get relatively mild symptoms, but that is not true for all of them. There are children in hospitals from this. Medical ethics has the immediate reply to the proposed idea: This will not be allowed.
Herd immunity will only happen once enough people have been infected -- 60 to 70% -- or until there is an effective vaccine that has been tested and then mass-produced. Not all vaccines in development are found to be effective once deployed. The future is uncertain, but it is realistic to plan for a year or more of this situation. I hope I am wrong.

Bill_de Loc: US

As of yesterday a doctor from the CDC said this is a hope, not a fact.

IDguy said:

' That might be by vaccine but also comes from humans who survive the virus. The latter are immune and more importantly can’t infect others."

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Dannj

“General Chit-Chat” means exactly that

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

What is so insidious about the Novel Coronavirus is that it contains RNA never before found in humans. It is a very sticky virus, which means it adheres to anything an infected person touches. When someone shakes hands, the virus transfers. Then when you touch your face, pick your nose, rub your eyes... Since we have no innate immunity to it, it is very infectious.

Herd immunity IS the long term solution. Many medical research teams are trying to reach a better short term solution than hospitalization and ventilation and isolation (They are working on a cure, a treatment, a relief... anything better than doing nothing).

To establish herd immunity, we can let people die, or we can invent a vaccine, or some combination of both, depending on the uncertain time frame. To save as many lives as possible, the medical community have told us to practice social distancing and quarantines. The point is to limit the rate of infection to something more likely for the medical community to handle.

Unfortunately, the business community and the less well-educated among us think that the current strategy is worse than the alternative of just letting people get sick and recover — or die. There is massive pressure on Trump to tell Fauci to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. In an election year, Trump will decide to... Who knows???

Last night, it sounded like Trump is ready to abandon the current strategy in April and tell us all to get back to work. If he does, it won't take long for the number of cases to skyrocket far beyond what the medical infrastructure can handle. The medical community experts really DO know what they are talking about. They are scientists who create projections derived from cold, hard evidence.

This is one we DO NOT want to "leave in God's hands." As a famous physicist once wrote, "God does not micromanage the universe." No, God leaves it in OUR hands to deal with this as best we can. Thankfully, we are an ingenious, creative lot.

Do your parts to stay safe, folks!

Jimmy T Loc: Virginia

General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)

IDguy Loc: Idaho

Yes. And you do not have the option to start a thread in the Attic.

Amazing how there are always a few who can’t seem to grasp that. Or seem unable to just ignore threads they have no interest in.

IDguy Loc: Idaho

What is “this”?

If you mean the malaria treatments Trump made that clear when he spoke about it. Fauci concurred with what he said. And New York is implementing it.

Developing a vaccine is also a hope at this point.

IDguy Loc: Idaho

BTW before I did this I’d like to see the model predictions. One can build a suitable model in a day. The uncertainties will be driven by the inputs, e.g. infection rates and outcomes as a function of age and other factors.

And of course when restarting schools in any case we need to be smart about: ask susceptible students and teachers, and students with susceptible family at home, to stay home the first couple of weeks.

My guess is that something like the proposed strategy would have far superior results for the population and the economy. We don’t want to follow Italy.

tgreenhaw

Wouldn't it be simpler if everyone wore masks and gloves for a while? Maybe even wash their hands too?

ltatko

"threads that I have no interest in"

We are bombed with C-Virus info.

Enough already!!

Len

CWGordon

Enjoy

Ron Dial Loc: Cuenca, Ecuador

The one thought you have that is not quite correct. People who have recovered, ARE getting re-infected.

BBurns Loc: South Bay, California

I’m a former systems guy, also. We are often asked to think outside the box.
As a senior engineer once complimented me, some of us have much bigger boxes.

Bill_de Loc: US

The title was clear. DUH! If you don't like it, don't look!. Maybe some people want to discuss it more.

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