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Mar 21, 2020 12:19:49 #

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

An enlarger lens on bellows is much more user friendly and versatile than regular lenses in reverse ....

Mar 21, 2020 12:26:02 #

manofhg Loc: Knoxville, TN

speters wrote:

I do have the same model camera and I just put regular lenses on my bellows. I do shoot a lot too with a Pentax 645n Mark II and have an auto bellows for it, so I use that one with the Canon as well! I use many 645 lenses on the bellows in reverse, I do not need an enlarger lens, although I do use one (Schneider Componon-S) on the bellows for my movie camera!

Thanks for responding.

Soooo, how did you connect the bellows to the camera and lenses to the bellows? The bellows I have looked at have different methods of connecting depending on brand and type, but since I've not used one, I don't know the differences.

Mar 21, 2020 16:13:13 #

RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA

Each brand has its own mount, but there are many adapters available to use various lenses on different bellows, and various bellows on different cameras. Here is a good resource:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Lens-Adapters/ci/3420/N/4077634486
Enter your Camera Body Mount, and you’ll get a listing of all the different lens mounts available for that body. If you have a non-Canon bellows, enter its mount to get a listing of what’s available for it.
If you have further questions, just ask.

Mar 21, 2020 17:36:46 #

manofhg Loc: Knoxville, TN

RWR wrote:

Each brand has its own mount, but there are many a... (show quote)

Thanks, I'll look into it. B&H has been my source for many purchases, good folks.

Mar 21, 2020 17:39:24 #

manofhg Loc: Knoxville, TN

RWR wrote:

Each brand has its own mount, but there are many a... (show quote)

What about if you are reversing a Canon lens?

Mar 21, 2020 17:42:00 #

BebuLamar

I don't know if Canon made a bellow in the EF mount. If so just get one of those plus this adapter
https://www.adorama.com/fdm39eos.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9tbzBRDVARIsAMBplx8hBfYEhgBXykBeTNTbPo58DBLFKsGMBBrpPHBJ-BfRFqOSH4e2Jd4aAgReEALw_wcB&utm_source=adl-gbase

to mount the lens to the bellow. Most enlarging lenses have M39 thread.

Mar 21, 2020 17:51:56 #

RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA

manofhg wrote:

What about if you are reversing a Canon lens?

You’ll need a lens reversing ring for whatever camera mount you have.

Mar 21, 2020 18:42:04 #

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

If you use m42 bellows they can adapt to ANY camera body with the most universal m42 adapters. Also, use reversing rings to M42 if that is what you are going to do.....

Mar 21, 2020 20:06:14 #

manofhg Loc: Knoxville, TN

RWR wrote:

You’ll need a lens reversing ring for whatever camera mount you have.

Thanks, found them on B&H. Now that I am learning what to look for, it is much easier to know where to look.

Mar 21, 2020 20:20:42 #

manofhg Loc: Knoxville, TN

imagemeister wrote:

If you use m42 bellows they can adapt to ANY camera body with the most universal m42 adapters. Also, use reversing rings to M42 if that is what you are going to do.....

Thanks. Looking into the M42 as well.

Mar 21, 2020 20:41:40 #

JD750 Loc: SoCal

manofhg wrote:

Thank you.

You are welcome.

Mar 21, 2020 22:29:18 #

newtoyou Loc: Eastport

BebuLamar wrote:

For you and everyone.
For $20 I just recieved a Canon EF bellows. Single rail, light, and with a 40mm prime lens, very compact.
No idea about tripod use, but it has a tripod mount.
Bill

Mar 22, 2020 08:37:44 #

tcthome Loc: NJ

Canon makes a lens that goes up to 5:1. Pricey but... Bellows is a great idea also.

Mar 22, 2020 08:41:25 #

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

manofhg wrote:

I have been looking into getting an enlarger lens,... (show quote)

Most enlarging lenses are M39. The Canon Auto Bellows or Bellows FL will take a FD adapter with the M39 thread on it see photo of Lens Mount Converter A that I have.
The bellows is attached to your 5DIII with a FD to EF adapter easily obtained from B&H etc., See photo of a an EOS camera, with FD to EF adapter, Auto Bellows, Adapter A and a Componon S 50mm lens in this particular set up. I have several enlarger lenses of different quality but used this for the example.
This works very well and the camera still meters just fine and I use the A setting for exposure then adjust if needed.
The third photo shows an extension tube. It is M39 threaded so the enlarger lens would mount directly to it I used the Canon Converter B to mount the Canon FD 50mm macro lens to the tube.
Finally Canon made an incredible lens the FLM 100mm f4 lens designed to be used only on the bellows and takes wonderful photos, see last photo.
Hope this helps you a bit. And remember have fun with doing combinations like this. Experimenting can be half the fun.

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Mar 22, 2020 09:27:51 #

fetzler Loc: North West PA

Architect1776 wrote:

Most enlarging lenses are M39. The Canon Auto Bell... (show quote)

Architect1776 has good advice. Indeed most enlarger lenses have M39 (Leica) thread. You may wish to invert the enlarger lens as well. The challenge is finding the right thread adapters.

My favorite ways to shoot macros are.

1. Use a macro lens
2. Macro lens with Raynox lens for higher mag.
3. Lens on extension tubes for 3D objects. Sometimes wide angle lenses can be pressed into service here for interesting effects.

I consider reverse mount lenses to be the least attractive method as it is the least flexible method. It is cheap however.
For high mag microscope objectives can be used in a manner similar to the enlarger lens. These have very shallow depth of field but with stacking good images can be taken.

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