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Mar 21, 2020 09:01:10   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
agillot wrote:
bring back the guillotine ! and line those scum up .


To whom are you responding to???

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Mar 21, 2020 09:12:32   #
Woodworm65 Loc: Lombard, IL
 


More like slim bags.

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Mar 21, 2020 09:21:56   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
nicksr1125 wrote:
Worth trying if you can stand the side effects. I did include links. Go back & look at my post.

medlineplus.gov & webmd.com. Both are respected medical websites.


Not links but when I check those sites do not support your assertion. Instead there are anti Trump postings using perjorative words such as “touted” or “boasted”. I heard what he said so recognize the lies/fake news of the left.

Here is what I found:

“ In February, a research group led by virologist Manli Wang of the Chinese Academy of Sciences put the idea to the test and found that chloroquine successfully stopped the spread of SARS-CoV-2 in cultured human cells. Preliminary reports from China, South Korea and France suggest that the treatment is at least somewhat effective in treating human patients, and some hospitals in the U.S. have begun administering the drug, according to The New York Times. In addition, the FDA is organizing a large clinical trial to formally assess the drug's effects, the Times reported.

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However, due to a short supply of chloroquine in China, and the fact that an overdose can lead to acute poisoning or death in humans, Wang's team also investigated the closely related drug hydroxychloroquine. Though it shares a similar structure, hydroxychloroquine shows lower toxicity in animals than its chemical cousin and remains widely available as a treatment for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, the authors noted.

Wang's team tested hydroxychloroquine in primate cells and found that, like chloroquine, the drug prevented SARS-CoV-2 replication, according to a report published March 18 in the journal Cell Discovery. As of Feb. 23, seven clinical trials had been registered in the Chinese Clinical Trial Registry to test the drug's effectiveness against COVID-19 infection, the authors noted.

In the U.S., the University of Minnesota is studying whether taking hydroxychloroquine can protect people living with infected COVID-19 patients from catching the virus themselves, according to the Times.”

https://www.livescience.com/chloroquine-coronavirus-treatment.html

There was also a recent small trial in France that had 100% success on a small sample of humans.

All drugs have scary lists of side effects.

I hopefully await more results. They will be forthcoming soon.

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Mar 21, 2020 09:25:54   #
OlinBost Loc: Marietta, Ga.
 
Keep on smiling!
Subject: T - Paper who needs it ?
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Now my butt smells like lavender - No static electricity
AND for the first time in 40 years my old arse is
WRINKLE FREE !!!

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Mar 21, 2020 09:55:57   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Also this: https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/19/french-study-finds-anti-malarial-and-antibiotic-combo-could-reduce-covid-19-duration/

THERE ARE NO TESTS THAT DISPROVE EFFECTIVENESS

“A new study whose results were published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents has found early evidence that the combination of hydroxychloroquine, a popular anti-malaria drug known under the trade name Plaqenuil, and antibiotic azithromycin (aka Zithromax or Azithrocin) could be especially effective in treating the COVID-19 coronavirus and reducing the duration of the virus in patients.

The researchers performed a study on 30 confirmed COVID-19 patients, treating each with either hydroxychloroquine on its own, a combination of the medicine with the antibiotic, as well as a control group that received neither. The study was conducted after reports from treatment of Chinese patients indicated that this particular combo had efficacy in shortening the duration of infection in patients.

The patient mix included in the study included six who showed no symptoms whatsoever, as well as 22 who had symptoms in their upper respiratory tract (things like sneezing, headaches and sore throats, and eight who showed lower respiratory tract symptoms (mostly coughing). 20 of the 30 participants in the study received treatment, and the results showed that while hydroxycholoroquine was effective on its own as a treatment, when combined with azithromycin it was even more effective, and by a significant margin.

These results represent a limited study with a small number of patients, but they are promising, especially when combined with earlier reports from patients in China with the same treatment options. Researchers globally are testing a number of potential treatments, including a range of drugs used previously in the efforts to combat Ebola, SARS, HIV and other global outbreaks.”

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Mar 21, 2020 11:13:33   #
andesbill
 
Hydroxychloroquine is a safer form. The Chinese were using the older form. The recommended dose was 1 gram. Death occurs at 2 grams. This is not safe.
I read the scientific paper comparing the effectiveness of chloroquine and Remdesivir against COVID19-19.
Remdesivir appeared to work in vitro against the virus, but it’s very expensive- it needs to be infused. Chloroquine seemed to have a greater effect as prophylactic than treatment.
The US in Washington state have been trying all kinds of drug combos. So far, nothing seems to pass the gold standard test comparing the drug with a placebo.
That being said, I’m getting hydroxychloroquine (Paquinel- I think it is), and will use it if necessary.
Stay safe.

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Mar 21, 2020 11:22:12   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Much ado about nothing. As per the current media, there aren't ANY existing drugs that have sufficiently tested as safe and effective for the Coronavirus.
The Chinese or any one else in the world are EXPERIMENTING with antimalarials and other things, but NOTHING to run with yet.

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Mar 21, 2020 11:57:55   #
Redmond Loc: Oregon
 
this medicine, I heard has not been approved by the FDA, for this virus. Don't spend your money this drug, so far only the President thinks it will work on this virus..

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Mar 21, 2020 12:06:37   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
John_F wrote:
Copied from an email.

Pharmaceutical Corporation Doubles Price of Promising Coronavirus Treatment
Rising Pharmaceuticals, a U.S.-based drug corporation, raised the price of a drug being used to treat coronavirus in China and other countries by 97% in January of this year as the spread of the virus accelerated.

The drug, Chloroquine, has been on the market for 20 years and is approved to treat malaria. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is currently testing Chloroquine as a treatment for Coronavirus, and President Trump mentioned it in Thursday’s daily White House briefing as a potential treatment option.

After public pressure, Rising has promised to lower the price of the drug back to its pre-outbreak price. However, this is not the first time Rising Pharmaceuticals has come under fire for its business practices. The corporation was found to have engaged in price fixing in 2019 and was required to pay $3 million in fines and restitution as part of a lawsuit in Pennsylvania.

“It is absolutely outrageous that Rising Pharmaceuticals would seek to maximize its profits during a global health crisis,” said Alliance Executive Director Richard Fiesta. “Congress must take action to stop pharmaceutical corporations from engaging in price gouging and profiteering.”
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A known side-effect of Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) is irreversible vision damage (macular degeneration). I was placed on Plaquenil about 30 years ago to treat my rheumatoid arthritis with the provision that I have my eyes checked by an ophthalmologist every six months. After a few years my ophthalmologist saw what she thought was the beginning of some eye damage and I had to switch meds. If hydroxychloroquine is to become a "miracle" fix for COVID, there may not be enough eye doctors to handle the needed exams.

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Mar 21, 2020 12:10:19   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Redmond wrote:
this medicine, I heard has not been approved by the FDA, for this virus. Don't spend your money this drug, so far only the President thinks it will work on this virus..


I guess you can’t read.

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Mar 21, 2020 12:11:16   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
jackm1943 wrote:
A known side-effect of Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) is irreversible vision damage (macular degeneration). I was placed on Plaquenil about 30 years ago to treat my rheumatoid arthritis with the provision that I have my eyes checked by an ophthalmologist every six months. After a few years my ophthalmologist saw what she thought was the beginning of some eye damage and I had to switch meds. If hydroxychloroquine is to become a "miracle" fix for COVID, there may not be enough eye doctors to handle the needed exams.
A known side-effect of Plaquenil (hydroxychloroqui... (show quote)


You’d only take it a couple of weeks. Not an issue.

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Mar 21, 2020 12:14:27   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
nadelewitz wrote:
Much ado about nothing. As per the current media, there aren't ANY existing drugs that have sufficiently tested as safe and effective for the Coronavirus.
The Chinese or any one else in the world are EXPERIMENTING with antimalarials and other things, but NOTHING to run with yet.


If you pay attention to the fake news media that’s what you get.

As Trump stated, it is hopeful but not fully tested for this application. But it is already approved for other uses which greatly reduces test time because safety is known.

Try reading above.

Or not. Each is welcome to choose to die.

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Mar 21, 2020 12:33:44   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Let's not forget that the pharmaceutical companies and chemical manufacturers are privately or corporately owned businesses. As such, they choose at their own free will what medications they will pursue and which they will not.

There is no mandate that a pharmaceutical develop any specific drug. There is however a quagmire of Federal Regulations that inhibit bringing a drug onto the market. There is no doubt that FDA is more focused on the safety of a medication than they are about its effectiveness.

There are many drugs that have proven to be effective that have been developed and that are available in other countries that are not available here. One is Bata Blockers developed in Great Britain that have been estimated to have saved as many as 10,000 lives each year had they been approved for use here by the FDA.

The Federal Government plays far too large of a part in our daily lives as it is already. Decisions pertaining to my health should be solely between me, my doctors and specialists. Not some group of bureaucrats who have no clue of who I am and what my needs are.

Are medication prices high? Absolutely. Are the prices of housing, automobiles and trucks high? Absolutely. Should the Federal Government dictate how much you can charge when you sell your home or automobile? No Way! The market will have that influence. To the person that would like to buy your home but can't afford it may say, "That guy is crazy for wanting that much for his house" which to him is realistic however to you it is offered at the current market value.

Personally, I hate to pay the prices for my non-generic medications. I also hate to buy garbage bags for the sole purpose of throwing them away. Much like people who buy fireworks on the 4th of July getting a few seconds of entertainment and then nothing but trash to clean up afterward.

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Mar 21, 2020 12:42:24   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
About a week ago there was a report of a guy who hoarded 70,000 items and tried to sell them on Amazon. He got blocked and banned. Can you forward a complaint to eBay; they might ban.

aellman wrote:
Try checking the prices of toilet paper on ebay. People profiteering from this crisis are the lowest form of humanity.

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Mar 21, 2020 13:05:16   #
andesbill
 
jackm1943 wrote:
A known side-effect of Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) is irreversible vision damage (macular degeneration). I was placed on Plaquenil about 30 years ago to treat my rheumatoid arthritis with the provision that I have my eyes checked by an ophthalmologist every six months. After a few years my ophthalmologist saw what she thought was the beginning of some eye damage and I had to switch meds. If hydroxychloroquine is to become a "miracle" fix for COVID, there may not be enough eye doctors to handle the needed exams.
A known side-effect of Plaquenil (hydroxychloroqui... (show quote)


I have RA, but not bad enough to take Plaquenil. But, if I get sore throat, followed by a cough, with fever, I’ll ask my son-in-law, and if he says take it, I’ll take it, but not for a few years. How’s your RA now? What are you taking for it?

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