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Mar 19, 2020 19:59:18   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
was on a photo workshop with Don Mammoser down in the Ft Myers FL area recently ( great trip ); I switched from Nikon to Sony ( aR7 iii full frame and a6100 APS-C ); many, many Sony users now appearing - saw them at Venice Rookery and Ding Ding Darling; prior to this time I had seen TWO users in 8 years

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Mar 19, 2020 20:02:48   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Been shooting Sony (and Canon ) for 5 years now ...

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Mar 19, 2020 20:17:57   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
And...?

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Mar 19, 2020 20:19:40   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Marketing works.

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Mar 19, 2020 21:07:45   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Ed Chu wrote:
was on a photo workshop with Don Mammoser down in the Ft Myers FL area recently ( great trip ); I switched from Nikon to Sony ( aR7 iii full frame and a6100 APS-C ); many, many Sony users now appearing - saw them at Venice Rookery and Ding Ding Darling; prior to this time I had seen TWO users in 8 years


Yes, Sony has been in the high end mirrorless business for about three years longer than Canon or Nikon and a lot of people (because of both marketing and proliferation of three years of cameras) seem to feel if you go mirrorless, you have to go Sony. While this was true a year-and-a-half ago, maybe not so much today. Both Canon and Nikon have come out with very strong contenders in the mirrorless format and will probably give Sony a real run for their money in the next two years. Early on, soon after Nikon came out with their Z6 & Z7 I read an article from a "supposed expert" on the subject of equipment where he was comparing the Sony 7aIII to the Nikons. It was quite an in depth study covering several pages. There were a few things he liked better in the Sony and a few he liked better in the Nikon. In his conclusion he said there was little to sway a person from one camera to the other but he gave the Sony a very slight edge due to what he felt was a better processor (the sensors are both made by Sony so no advantage there). He said if a person had Nikon glass, stay with Nikon, if not, go with Sony. I felt this was a good take on the subject until I was on the bus headed to NYC for the annual Photo Show at the Javits Center. I happened to sit by a person who did research on cameras (he owned the Z7 and had just acquired he new Sony 7aIV). I told him about the article and he said the author was just speculating because of Sony's experience. He said in reality the processor being used by Sony was the same one they introduced three years ago while the Nikon processor was newer and most likely better than the one being used by Sony. I expect Sony will continue to dominate the mirrorless field for the next couple of years but their market share in those cameras will begin to decline as Canon and Nikon ramp up their research and production and begin offering more lenses for that format. Having dipped my toes into the mirrorless waters by getting a Z50 with the two kit lenses they offer, I have to say I'm very impressed with the sharpness and color reproduction of those kit lenses. In fact on a two week trip to Charleston, SC and then taking the long route back to PA through the Outer Banks and coastal Virginia, the only camera and lenses I used was the Z50 kit. I had my D810 and a couple of pro lenses with me but never took them out of the bag. After using mirrorless for a couple of months now there are things I like better with the Z50 and some things that just do not work as well as with a DSLR. While Sony may have the mirrorless numbers now, they still will not take over Canon and Nikon's DSLR business and from my experience, the DSLR cameras will be around for some time to come.

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Mar 20, 2020 02:26:41   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Bridges wrote:
Yes, Sony has been in the high end mirrorless business for about three years longer than Canon or Nikon and a lot of people (because of both marketing and proliferation of three years of cameras) seem to feel if you go mirrorless, you have to go Sony. While this was true a year-and-a-half ago, maybe not so much today. Both Canon and Nikon have come out with very strong contenders in the mirrorless format and will probably give Sony a real run for their money in the next two years. Early on, soon after Nikon came out with their Z6 & Z7 I read an article from a "supposed expert" on the subject of equipment where he was comparing the Sony 7aIII to the Nikons. It was quite an in depth study covering several pages. There were a few things he liked better in the Sony and a few he liked better in the Nikon. In his conclusion he said there was little to sway a person from one camera to the other but he gave the Sony a very slight edge due to what he felt was a better processor (the sensors are both made by Sony so no advantage there). He said if a person had Nikon glass, stay with Nikon, if not, go with Sony. I felt this was a good take on the subject until I was on the bus headed to NYC for the annual Photo Show at the Javits Center. I happened to sit by a person who did research on cameras (he owned the Z7 and had just acquired he new Sony 7aIV). I told him about the article and he said the author was just speculating because of Sony's experience. He said in reality the processor being used by Sony was the same one they introduced three years ago while the Nikon processor was newer and most likely better than the one being used by Sony. I expect Sony will continue to dominate the mirrorless field for the next couple of years but their market share in those cameras will begin to decline as Canon and Nikon ramp up their research and production and begin offering more lenses for that format. Having dipped my toes into the mirrorless waters by getting a Z50 with the two kit lenses they offer, I have to say I'm very impressed with the sharpness and color reproduction of those kit lenses. In fact on a two week trip to Charleston, SC and then taking the long route back to PA through the Outer Banks and coastal Virginia, the only camera and lenses I used was the Z50 kit. I had my D810 and a couple of pro lenses with me but never took them out of the bag. After using mirrorless for a couple of months now there are things I like better with the Z50 and some things that just do not work as well as with a DSLR. While Sony may have the mirrorless numbers now, they still will not take over Canon and Nikon's DSLR business and from my experience, the DSLR cameras will be around for some time to come.
Yes, Sony has been in the high end mirrorless busi... (show quote)


Canon is poised to kick some Sony butt with the new EOS R5. I've already placed an order for one and should have it the day they hit the streets, whenever that may be. As for DSLR'S, I recently bought an EOS 90D and it's a really darn good crop sensor camera; I'd say better than anything Sony has to offer in that camera class.

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Mar 20, 2020 03:55:19   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Marketing works.


Most definitely.

Sometimes one can even predict which model is about to sell well just by observing who is pumping out the most ads.

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Mar 20, 2020 06:36:32   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
TriX wrote:
And...?


I think he is just expressing his recent observations.

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Mar 20, 2020 06:41:01   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Ed Chu wrote:
was on a photo workshop with Don Mammoser down in the Ft Myers FL area recently ( great trip ); I switched from Nikon to Sony ( aR7 iii full frame and a6100 APS-C ); many, many Sony users now appearing - saw them at Venice Rookery and Ding Ding Darling; prior to this time I had seen TWO users in 8 years


I am currently shooting Nikon and Sony. There are still advantages of BOTH systems. Wish they make a Caniso camera. In case your wondering, that's Canonnikonsony camera.

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Mar 20, 2020 06:54:31   #
venkatesh_eng
 
Mr Morrison - Where did you place your order for the Canon R5. Could you share which website please ? Thank you.

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Mar 20, 2020 07:11:27   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Not marketing in my case. It was features Sony had that other makers didn't have, at an affordable price.

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Mar 20, 2020 08:05:34   #
Canisdirus
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Canon is poised to kick some Sony butt with the new EOS R5. I've already placed an order for one and should have it the day they hit the streets, whenever that may be. As for DSLR'S, I recently bought an EOS 90D and it's a really darn good crop sensor camera; I'd say better than anything Sony has to offer in that camera class.


Sony will answer Canon.
It's Nikon who is being damaged by Canon ... big time.

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Mar 20, 2020 08:20:03   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Sony will answer Canon.
It's Nikon who is being damaged by Canon ... big time.


They are all being hurt by cell phones.

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Mar 20, 2020 08:40:08   #
Lee Roman Loc: Lavalette, West Virginia
 
Who in this Conversation is waiting for and anticipating the next introduction of Sony to the market - the rumored Sony A7 Siii?

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Mar 20, 2020 09:30:50   #
markwilliam1
 
gessman wrote:
Not marketing in my case. It was features Sony had that other makers didn't have, at an affordable price.


There you go!

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