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Mar 17, 2020 21:13:55   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
Sold my Canon 60mm 2.8 Macro lens and purchased the Tamron 45mm 1.8 Di VC USM lens. Lens is well made. Metal and plastic. Rear has a gasket. 6 year warranty is nice. Being this lens is on a Canon EOS 80D crop sensor camera the 45mm vs 60mm gives me a wider view. This is the first lens I have owned with VC. I can not take shots in venues where a flash is not allowed, hand held and still get clear shots. VC is amazing. So far I am very pleased with this lens. Had it for 2 days now and will upload some photos when I get a chance.

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Mar 17, 2020 21:20:57   #
bleirer
 
authorizeduser wrote:
Sold my Canon 60mm 2.8 Macro lens and purchased the Tamron 45mm 1.8 Di VC USM lens. Lens is well made. Metal and plastic. Rear has a gasket. 6 year warranty is nice. Being this lens is on a Canon EOS 80D crop sensor camera the 45mm vs 60mm gives me a wider view. This is the first lens I have owned with VC. I can not take shots in venues where a flash is not allowed, hand held and still get clear shots. VC is amazing. So far I am very pleased with this lens. Had it for 2 days now and will upload some photos when I get a chance.
Sold my Canon 60mm 2.8 Macro lens and purchased th... (show quote)


What do you mean 'a wider view?'

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Mar 17, 2020 21:27:47   #
mrpentaxk5ii
 
A 45 mm has a wider field of view than a 60 mm , this is true on any camera

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Mar 17, 2020 22:05:58   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
mrpentaxk5ii wrote:
A 45 mm has a wider field of view than a 60 mm , this is true on any camera


Not drastically, but certainly.

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Mar 18, 2020 07:11:43   #
CO
 
I have that lens. I've had it for a few years. It's great. Very few primes lenses have stabilization. It helps a lot when hand holding the camera. I've used it on my cropped sensor Nikons but I now use it on my full frame D750. I like that it has a metal lens barrel and is fully weather sealed. Here's a photo I did with it hand held with VC on.

Tamron 45mm f/1.8 SP VC lens on D750
Tamron 45mm f/1.8 SP VC lens on D750...
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Mar 18, 2020 07:51:43   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
IMHO VR is not a necessity on a 60 unless there is a physical impairment.

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Mar 18, 2020 08:52:20   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
CO wrote:
I have that lens. I've had it for a few years. It's great. Very few primes lenses have stabilization. It helps a lot when hand holding the camera. I've used it on my cropped sensor Nikons but I now use it on my full frame D750. I like that it has a metal lens barrel and is fully weather sealed. Here's a photo I did with it hand held with VC on.


NICE!

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Mar 18, 2020 08:58:49   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
LWW wrote:
IMHO VR is not a necessity on a 60 unless there is a physical impairment.


Or perhaps you are shooting indoors without a tripod and can't use a flash.
It certainly helps shooting handheld @ 1/60 with no flash.

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Mar 18, 2020 10:16:42   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
ggab wrote:
Or perhaps you are shooting indoors without a tripod and can't use a flash.
It certainly helps shooting handheld @ 1/60 with no flash.


I’m a geezer ... but a healthy person with rudimentary skills can hold a 60 steady at 1/60 easily. Even on a crop sensor.

More specifically to my point is I’ve seen VR on lenses as short as 10 mm.

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Mar 18, 2020 11:04:39   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
LWW wrote:
I’m a geezer ... but a healthy person with rudimentary skills can hold a 60 steady at 1/60 easily. Even on a crop sensor.

More specifically to my point is I’ve seen VR on lenses as short as 10 mm.


The best i have done so far with this 45mm lens using VC is 1/15 sec

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Mar 18, 2020 11:05:59   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
LWW wrote:
IMHO VR is not a necessity on a 60 unless there is a physical impairment.


Hey, every little bit helps ............

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Mar 18, 2020 13:43:24   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
LWW wrote:
I’m a geezer ... but a healthy person with rudimentary skills can hold a 60 steady at 1/60 easily. Even on a crop sensor.

More specifically to my point is I’ve seen VR on lenses as short as 10 mm.


We are all getting a bit older and less steady.
I think this is the biggest advantage to VR, IS etc.
It's us older folks.

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Mar 18, 2020 14:06:07   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
LWW wrote:
IMHO VR is not a necessity on a 60 unless there is a physical impairment.


Image stabilization of any sort isn't "necessary" at all...

But it's VERY helpful and allows you to take shots that would otherwise be difficult or impossible.

I'm damn good holding steady shots.... usually able to get a high percentage of sharp shots one or two stops slower than the focal length/shutter speed rule of thumb suggests.

However, thanks to image stabilization I've been able to do another one, two, sometimes even three stops slower with reasonable success. I used to sneer at stabilization use with lenses shorter than 50 or 60mm (on APS-C, where they are short telephotos).



I shot the above portrait of a friend at 1/30 with an unstabilized 50mm lens on APS-C (80mm equiv.)... after one or two drinks!

But, hey... after nearly 20 years using stabilized telephotos, I realized it doesn't hurt to have it on ANY lens. With a little luck and careful work, thanks to it maybe I'll be able to get some sharp shots at 1/4 or 1/2 second with a 10mm or 15mm ultrawide, that I'd normally have to use at 1/15 or 1/30.

IMO, image stabilization has been one of the most important innovations for photography. Partly that's because I use fairly powerful telephotos a lot, where I still think it's most helpful. In general stabilization ranks up there with roll film, in-camera TTL metering, autofocus and a few other truly revolutionary features. If it weren't such a game-changer, why would everyone else have followed Canon's lead implementing some form of stabilization in their cameras and/or lenses?

It could be argued that newer digital camera high ISO capabilities... ability to make images in lower light and at far higher ISO than we ever dreamed possible back in the days of film... has made image stabilization less important. Or you could take the opposite tack and think how the combination makes even more possible.

Given choice of a lens without IS or one with it, so long as image quality isn't compromised and the price difference isn't ridiculous, I'll always opt for the stabilized lens no matter the focal length.

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Mar 18, 2020 15:10:20   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
The other side of the coin is getting your audience to sit/stand still with very slow shutter speeds.
VR, VC, IS will do nothing to help with that!

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Mar 18, 2020 17:34:35   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 

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