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Mar 16, 2020 15:03:14   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
fergmark wrote:
That color shot is wonderful. your black and white is so contrasty that it undoes what I like so much with the richness in softness and subtlety in the color version. I think there is a fine b/w conversion to be had. I think you should have another go at it paying particular attention to keeping the clouds soft, and the rest will take care of its self.


Thanks very much for your opinion fergmark. I’ll give it another try from scratch.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:16:50   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
BrianFlaherty wrote:
ANY photo of Scotland is a treasure! And, YOUR terrific bridge shot has an especial significance for me! 25 years ago, I shot over 20 rolls of film. . .Never tired of looking back at all those memories!

Word of Caution. . .Make TWO sets of all your photos; and, HIDE one set in a secret place! I divorced my wife in 2001 (after 30 yrs of marriage). . .And, "lost" over 10,000 photos . .Wife tearfully told the judge during the court proceedings when I asked for the photos as part of my settlement (which included a list of the photos of Scotland; Alaska; Africa, etc): "I have no idea what he's talking about! Especially any photos of Alaska; Scotland; Africa, etc. . .That's a fantasy of his! He was NEVER in those places! And, could NEVER have taken any pictures there!" Even though I showed the judge:Airplane tickets; hotel receipts; rental car receipts; etc. . .I was awarded nothing! <smile>
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PS. . .The photos of Alaska included "up close & personal" photos of an eagle (within 8 ft); a mama moose & her calf (within a dozen ft); and, a pod of orcas (within 10 ft of our boat). . Yellowstone Park, a herd of bison (within 12 ft. . I had a handy tree closeby to climb if needed!) And, in South Africa, hippos "frolicking" in a river. . .A recommendation: Do NOT use a Nikon 35mm when shooting wild-life up close. . The shutter "slam" is ear-shattering. . .And, will definitely cause the animals to look around at you!!! Hence, the need for a stout tree to climb in an emergency! <smile>
ANY photo of Scotland is a treasure! And, YOUR te... (show quote)


Did you point out to the judge that your wife stole your computer? So you didn't have a back-up? I have two back-ups of all my pics - valuable or not, kept in different places. BTW - if you had a way of getting the animals to look at you, then you should have been ready to take a second fantastic shot?

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Mar 16, 2020 15:19:00   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
Tazzy wrote:
Color version is my choice


Thank you Tazzy.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:19:43   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
srfmhg wrote:
We drove past this beautiful bridge near the town of Bridge of Allan and I got this shot through the tour bus window. I converted it to B&W but I can't decide which one I like better. Opinions please.
Mark


For my taste, the color is a nice image, but is more run-of-the-mill compared to the potential of the B&W. I much prefer the B&W because it adds much more impact. For this B&W, I would redo and eliminate the blown areas in the clouds to recover detail, add a little more contrast to the overall image and follow up with a little dodge and burning to add selective contrast especially around the bridge and water.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:19:54   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
phlash46 wrote:
Great shot Doc; I tend toward the color.


Thanks very much Bruce. I appreciate!

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Mar 16, 2020 15:20:38   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
John from gpwmi wrote:
At first glance I choose B&W, and after thinking about it still do.


Thanks very much John.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:21:17   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
blacks2 wrote:
Absolutely gorgeous Mark.


Thank you so much Mike.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:22:41   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
SpyderJan wrote:
I have to go with the color version Mark. The B&W is very dramatic, and if that is the feeling you had then you have represented it faithfully. Both are good for different reasons.


Thanks so much Jan. I value your opinion.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:25:08   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
StanMac wrote:
I’m normally a fan of B&W, but in this case I feel that there is too much varied tonal clutter in the background directly behind the bridge competing for one’s visual attention. For this scene I think the color version shows the bridge as the subject of the composition much better.

Stan


Thanks so much Stan. I wish we could have stopped so that I could have composed the shot better but it was “on the fly”.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:25:16   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
I like both versions. In the B & W version, I would probably use the ND filter on the lower part of the image and lighten it just a bit.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:28:03   #
Late Learner
 
I like both and would hang both side by side since each photo evokes different but wonderful feelings which can only be felt when viewed together.
JLBROWN

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Mar 16, 2020 15:32:19   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
oldgrayowl wrote:
One thing to make your Black and white images have more punch, is to use a red filter on the front of your lens.


Thanks Owl. I would do this if I were specifically shooting B&W but this was shot through the window of a tour bus in color. I did use the red filter in the conversion.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:33:24   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I like the black and white version. For me the bridge seems to get lost in the color photograph.

Dennis


Thanks Dennis. I appreciate your opinion.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:35:06   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
In digital photography there are several fantastic editing programs that give you far more control for black and white conversion than using a filter on the lens.

Check the works of a few UHH users such as rmalarz, fergmark, Graham Smith. I have a rare one or two myself https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-630773-1.html

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Thanks Linda.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:38:22   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I like both - but they are quite different. I guess I have to ask, "why are you choosing?" Are you only going to print it one way? If offering these for sale, I would offer both.


Thanks Kathy. I don’t sell my photos. I will probably print for gifts or make a photo book and I love hearing the opinions of other photographers on UHH - both professional and amateur.

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