How Is This A P******c Unless The Numbers Are Deflated (Page 11): Yes John I do. Apparently you didn't read the post where I said exactly how I feel. Perhaps you can go into great...

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

JohnFrim wrote:

Seriously, Dennis, you actually believe Trump has ... (show quote)

Yes John I do. Apparently you didn't read the post where I said exactly how I feel. Perhaps you can go into great detail to show us how he screwed up and yet there really are not a great many cases in a country as large and as populated as America. I will be right here waiting for your reply spiced with your very own heaping of TDS thrown in.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

LWW wrote:

What should Trump have done different?

Good luck my friend. As you know I have tried that too but with no good answers coming our way. No matter what Trump had done it would have been wrong to the Left. This is e******n season and we all know including the Left that President Trump MUST be made to look as if he hasn't a clue about being the POTUS even though so far wh**ever he has touched has been a win for America. Has he done everything in P**********l mode? No he hasn't. But has he done one hell of a lot of things for America? Yes he has.

My only problem with the Democrats is not one of them could have done as well no matter who, including Hillary, if she had won. Hillary was/is/always will be a corrupt loser.

Dennis

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

dennis2146 wrote:

Yes John I do. Apparently you didn't read the post where I said exactly how I feel. Perhaps you can go into great detail to show us how he screwed up and yet there really are not a great many cases in a country as large and as populated as America. I will be right here waiting for your reply spiced with your very own heaping of TDS thrown in.

Dennis

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop...

First of all, Trump should not have downplayed the seriousness of the v***s weeks ago. Calling it a Democratic h**x against him was not only wrong, but totally inappropriate. There are people all over the world dying from this p******c, and none of them are part of a ploy against Trump. Comments like that show that HE was politicizing the p******c, and they were completely insensitive to anyone -- even Americans -- who have lost family members to the disease.

Secondly, he should have acted more aggressively sooner. He did his best to keep numbers low by not acting to get test kits out, not allowing commercial/university/hospital labs to do the testing, etc. His comment about not allowing the ship to dock because it would raise the number of US cases was stupid... and pathetic.

Third, he should not have lied to the public. Even in his Oval Office speech he lied or misrepresented facts that had to be corrected by people like F***i, and corrections to his many falsehoods were often done within minutes of Trump opening his pie hole.

Fourth -- oh heck, forget the count -- he should have stepped aside a long time ago and let the scientists and health officials speak and do their job, rather than insisting that messaging had to be approved by the administration.

He should stop lying about how well things are going in the US. The ONLY reason numbers are low is because of lack of testing. The increase in cases is not indicative of the spread of the v***s, but rather correlated to the number of tests out there. He also said anyone who wanted the test could get it (not true), that a v*****e would be ready in a few months (not true), that the spread was contained (not true), that C****-** is much like the common flu (not true), that this thing would miraculously go away (not true), that ... need I go on?

And what a bunch of bulls**t when he was at CDC bragging about himself ("I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.").

Then there is his not taking responsibility for the slow response and blaming it on Obama. You know, the administration that set up a p******c response office that Trump closed the day after the head of the group issued a dire warning about a p******c being the most serious national security health threat. He told the reporter in the Rose Garden who asked the question that someone else in his administration may have done that, but he has no responsibility for it. Yet in almost the same breath he takes credit for the stock market rebounding slightly, claiming it is doing really well. Eleven years of growth lost... and he is happy with the market performance. WOW!!!

This v***s may not be as bad as it seems, but the entire world is reacting for some reason, and it is having dire consequences for daily life now and for some time in the future. People are losing their jobs, or losing their salaries while not at work, unable to pay bills, etc, etc.

Trump did the right thing to limit travel from China early, but blocking travel from Europe -- without consulting foreign colleagues -- is not particularly helpful given that community spread is now the greatest means of spread. Declaring a national emergency is another good thing because it releases funds and resources, but much too late.

So if you want to hear me say Trump did a few things right, I will concede that the actions may be right, but the way he handled the situation is piss poor. My respect for him could actually go up a notch if he would publicly admit that he was wrong early on in his handling of the crisis, but I won't hold my breath.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

JohnFrim wrote:

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop...

First of all, Trump should not have downplayed the seriousness of the v***s weeks ago. Calling it a Democratic h**x against him was not only wrong, but totally inappropriate. There are people all over the world dying from this p******c, and none of them are part of a ploy against Trump. Comments like that show that HE was politicizing the p******c, and they were completely insensitive to anyone -- even Americans -- who have lost family members to the disease.

Secondly, he should have acted more aggressively sooner. He did his best to keep numbers low by not acting to get test kits out, not allowing commercial/university/hospital labs to do the testing, etc. His comment about not allowing the ship to dock because it would raise the number of US cases was stupid... and pathetic.

Third, he should not have lied to the public. Even in his Oval Office speech he lied or misrepresented facts that had to be corrected by people like F***i, and corrections to his many falsehoods were often done within minutes of Trump opening his pie hole.

Fourth -- oh heck, forget the count -- he should have stepped aside a long time ago and let the scientists and health officials speak and do their job, rather than insisting that messaging had to be approved by the administration.

He should stop lying about how well things are going in the US. The ONLY reason numbers are low is because of lack of testing. The increase in cases is not indicative of the spread of the v***s, but rather correlated to the number of tests out there. He also said anyone who wanted the test could get it (not true), that a v*****e would be ready in a few months (not true), that the spread was contained (not true), that C****-** is much like the common flu (not true), that this thing would miraculously go away (not true), that ... need I go on?

And what a bunch of bulls**t when he was at CDC bragging about himself ("I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.").

Then there is his not taking responsibility for the slow response and blaming it on Obama. You know, the administration that set up a p******c response office that Trump closed the day after the head of the group issued a dire warning about a p******c being the most serious national security health threat. He told the reporter in the Rose Garden who asked the question that someone else in his administration may have done that, but he has no responsibility for it. Yet in almost the same breath he takes credit for the stock market rebounding slightly, claiming it is doing really well. Eleven years of growth lost... and he is happy with the market performance. WOW!!!

This v***s may not be as bad as it seems, but the entire world is reacting for some reason, and it is having dire consequences for daily life now and for some time in the future. People are losing their jobs, or losing their salaries while not at work, unable to pay bills, etc, etc.

Trump did the right thing to limit travel from China early, but blocking travel from Europe -- without consulting foreign colleagues -- is not particularly helpful given that community spread is now the greatest means of spread. Declaring a national emergency is another good thing because it releases funds and resources, but much too late.

So if you want to hear me say Trump did a few things right, I will concede that the actions may be right, but the way he handled the situation is piss poor. My respect for him could actually go up a notch if he would publicly admit that he was wrong early on in his handling of the crisis, but I won't hold my breath.

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop... b... (show quote)

Well aren’t you some kind of wonderful!

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

idaholover wrote:

Well aren’t you some kind of wonderful!

Is that agreement on your part? If not, what would you dispute?

EyeSawYou

JohnFrim wrote:

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop...

First of all, Trump should not have downplayed the seriousness of the v***s weeks ago. Calling it a Democratic h**x against him was not only wrong, but totally inappropriate. There are people all over the world dying from this p******c, and none of them are part of a ploy against Trump. Comments like that show that HE was politicizing the p******c, and they were completely insensitive to anyone -- even Americans -- who have lost family members to the disease.

Secondly, he should have acted more aggressively sooner. He did his best to keep numbers low by not acting to get test kits out, not allowing commercial/university/hospital labs to do the testing, etc. His comment about not allowing the ship to dock because it would raise the number of US cases was stupid... and pathetic.

Third, he should not have lied to the public. Even in his Oval Office speech he lied or misrepresented facts that had to be corrected by people like F***i, and corrections to his many falsehoods were often done within minutes of Trump opening his pie hole.

Fourth -- oh heck, forget the count -- he should have stepped aside a long time ago and let the scientists and health officials speak and do their job, rather than insisting that messaging had to be approved by the administration.

He should stop lying about how well things are going in the US. The ONLY reason numbers are low is because of lack of testing. The increase in cases is not indicative of the spread of the v***s, but rather correlated to the number of tests out there. He also said anyone who wanted the test could get it (not true), that a v*****e would be ready in a few months (not true), that the spread was contained (not true), that C****-** is much like the common flu (not true), that this thing would miraculously go away (not true), that ... need I go on?

And what a bunch of bulls**t when he was at CDC bragging about himself ("I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.").

Then there is his not taking responsibility for the slow response and blaming it on Obama. You know, the administration that set up a p******c response office that Trump closed the day after the head of the group issued a dire warning about a p******c being the most serious national security health threat. He told the reporter in the Rose Garden who asked the question that someone else in his administration may have done that, but he has no responsibility for it. Yet in almost the same breath he takes credit for the stock market rebounding slightly, claiming it is doing really well. Eleven years of growth lost... and he is happy with the market performance. WOW!!!

This v***s may not be as bad as it seems, but the entire world is reacting for some reason, and it is having dire consequences for daily life now and for some time in the future. People are losing their jobs, or losing their salaries while not at work, unable to pay bills, etc, etc.

Trump did the right thing to limit travel from China early, but blocking travel from Europe -- without consulting foreign colleagues -- is not particularly helpful given that community spread is now the greatest means of spread. Declaring a national emergency is another good thing because it releases funds and resources, but much too late.

So if you want to hear me say Trump did a few things right, I will concede that the actions may be right, but the way he handled the situation is piss poor. My respect for him could actually go up a notch if he would publicly admit that he was wrong early on in his handling of the crisis, but I won't hold my breath.

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop... b... (show quote)

Why do you feel the need to repeat the same lie over and over again? Trump did not downplay the seriousness of the v***s you liar, he was very clear about the seriousness at the same time did not want to cause unnecessary fear like the losers on the Left are doing, which includes you. Also, your other repeated lie if that Trump called the v***s a h**x, Trump in no way called the v***s a h**x...so why continue that same BS lie?

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

EyeSawYou wrote:

Why do you feel the need to repeat the same lie over and over again? Trump did not downplay the seriousness of the v***s you liar, he was very clear about the seriousness at the same time did not want to cause unnecessary fear like the losers on the Left are doing, which includes you. Also, your other repeated lie if that Trump called the v***s a h**x, Trump in no way called the v***s a h**x...so why continue that same BS lie?

EyeSore, why do you call people liars when they are telling the t***h...

"The Democrats are politicizing the c****av***s," Trump said. "One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment h**x. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new h**x."

EyeSawYou

JohnFrim wrote:

EyeSore, why do you call people liars when they are telling the t***h...

"The Democrats are politicizing the c****av***s," Trump said. "One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment h**x. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new h**x."

OMFG you Lefties are such pathological liars lol. I don't call people who actually tell the t***h "liars", I call liar liars because they like you are liars.

'Did President Trump Refer to the C****av***s as a ‘H**x’?'

What's False
Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the c****av***s itself a h**x.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-c****av***s-rally-remark/

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

JohnFrim wrote:

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop...

First of all, Trump should not have downplayed the seriousness of the v***s weeks ago. Calling it a Democratic h**x against him was not only wrong, but totally inappropriate. There are people all over the world dying from this p******c, and none of them are part of a ploy against Trump. Comments like that show that HE was politicizing the p******c, and they were completely insensitive to anyone -- even Americans -- who have lost family members to the disease.

Secondly, he should have acted more aggressively sooner. He did his best to keep numbers low by not acting to get test kits out, not allowing commercial/university/hospital labs to do the testing, etc. His comment about not allowing the ship to dock because it would raise the number of US cases was stupid... and pathetic.

Third, he should not have lied to the public. Even in his Oval Office speech he lied or misrepresented facts that had to be corrected by people like F***i, and corrections to his many falsehoods were often done within minutes of Trump opening his pie hole.

Fourth -- oh heck, forget the count -- he should have stepped aside a long time ago and let the scientists and health officials speak and do their job, rather than insisting that messaging had to be approved by the administration.

He should stop lying about how well things are going in the US. The ONLY reason numbers are low is because of lack of testing. The increase in cases is not indicative of the spread of the v***s, but rather correlated to the number of tests out there. He also said anyone who wanted the test could get it (not true), that a v*****e would be ready in a few months (not true), that the spread was contained (not true), that C****-** is much like the common flu (not true), that this thing would miraculously go away (not true), that ... need I go on?

And what a bunch of bulls**t when he was at CDC bragging about himself ("I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.").

Then there is his not taking responsibility for the slow response and blaming it on Obama. You know, the administration that set up a p******c response office that Trump closed the day after the head of the group issued a dire warning about a p******c being the most serious national security health threat. He told the reporter in the Rose Garden who asked the question that someone else in his administration may have done that, but he has no responsibility for it. Yet in almost the same breath he takes credit for the stock market rebounding slightly, claiming it is doing really well. Eleven years of growth lost... and he is happy with the market performance. WOW!!!

This v***s may not be as bad as it seems, but the entire world is reacting for some reason, and it is having dire consequences for daily life now and for some time in the future. People are losing their jobs, or losing their salaries while not at work, unable to pay bills, etc, etc.

Trump did the right thing to limit travel from China early, but blocking travel from Europe -- without consulting foreign colleagues -- is not particularly helpful given that community spread is now the greatest means of spread. Declaring a national emergency is another good thing because it releases funds and resources, but much too late.

So if you want to hear me say Trump did a few things right, I will concede that the actions may be right, but the way he handled the situation is piss poor. My respect for him could actually go up a notch if he would publicly admit that he was wrong early on in his handling of the crisis, but I won't hold my breath.

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop... b... (show quote)

So you have nothing.

EyeSawYou

LWW wrote:

So you have nothing.

Too many BS lies in his conspiracy essay to back them up.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

JohnFrim wrote:

Is that agreement on your part? If not, what would you dispute?

Nearly all of it. Hindsight is always 20/20 and worth a bucket of piss. I was being sarcastic. When I call you people something other than wonderful you turn me in.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

JohnFrim wrote:

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop...

First of all, Trump should not have downplayed the seriousness of the v***s weeks ago. Calling it a Democratic h**x against him was not only wrong, but totally inappropriate. There are people all over the world dying from this p******c, and none of them are part of a ploy against Trump. Comments like that show that HE was politicizing the p******c, and they were completely insensitive to anyone -- even Americans -- who have lost family members to the disease.

Secondly, he should have acted more aggressively sooner. He did his best to keep numbers low by not acting to get test kits out, not allowing commercial/university/hospital labs to do the testing, etc. His comment about not allowing the ship to dock because it would raise the number of US cases was stupid... and pathetic.

Third, he should not have lied to the public. Even in his Oval Office speech he lied or misrepresented facts that had to be corrected by people like F***i, and corrections to his many falsehoods were often done within minutes of Trump opening his pie hole.

Fourth -- oh heck, forget the count -- he should have stepped aside a long time ago and let the scientists and health officials speak and do their job, rather than insisting that messaging had to be approved by the administration.

He should stop lying about how well things are going in the US. The ONLY reason numbers are low is because of lack of testing. The increase in cases is not indicative of the spread of the v***s, but rather correlated to the number of tests out there. He also said anyone who wanted the test could get it (not true), that a v*****e would be ready in a few months (not true), that the spread was contained (not true), that C****-** is much like the common flu (not true), that this thing would miraculously go away (not true), that ... need I go on?

And what a bunch of bulls**t when he was at CDC bragging about himself ("I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.").

Then there is his not taking responsibility for the slow response and blaming it on Obama. You know, the administration that set up a p******c response office that Trump closed the day after the head of the group issued a dire warning about a p******c being the most serious national security health threat. He told the reporter in the Rose Garden who asked the question that someone else in his administration may have done that, but he has no responsibility for it. Yet in almost the same breath he takes credit for the stock market rebounding slightly, claiming it is doing really well. Eleven years of growth lost... and he is happy with the market performance. WOW!!!

This v***s may not be as bad as it seems, but the entire world is reacting for some reason, and it is having dire consequences for daily life now and for some time in the future. People are losing their jobs, or losing their salaries while not at work, unable to pay bills, etc, etc.

Trump did the right thing to limit travel from China early, but blocking travel from Europe -- without consulting foreign colleagues -- is not particularly helpful given that community spread is now the greatest means of spread. Declaring a national emergency is another good thing because it releases funds and resources, but much too late.

So if you want to hear me say Trump did a few things right, I will concede that the actions may be right, but the way he handled the situation is piss poor. My respect for him could actually go up a notch if he would publicly admit that he was wrong early on in his handling of the crisis, but I won't hold my breath.

Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop... b... (show quote)

I predict his reply will be "I've never heard any of that". I sort of c***ted, that's always his answer.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

EyeSawYou wrote:

Why do you feel the need to repeat the same lie over and over again? Trump did not downplay the seriousness of the v***s you liar, he was very clear about the seriousness at the same time did not want to cause unnecessary fear like the losers on the Left are doing, which includes you. Also, your other repeated lie if that Trump called the v***s a h**x, Trump in no way called the v***s a h**x...so why continue that same BS lie?

And, the flu didn't k**l 20,000 Americans last year,right?

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

EyeSawYou wrote:

OMFG you Lefties are such pathological liars lol. I don't call people who actually tell the t***h "liars", I call liar liars because they like you are liars.

'Did President Trump Refer to the C****av***s as a ‘H**x’?'

What's False
Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the c****av***s itself a h**x.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-c****av***s-rally-remark/

"I don't call people who actually tell the t***h "liars"

You absolutely called someone a liar for saying the flu k**led 20,000 people last year. The next day you were posting that the flu k**led 20,000 people last year. How is that not calling someone a liar for telling the t***h?

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

thom w wrote:

"I don't call people who actually tell the t***h "liars"

You absolutely called someone a liar for saying the flu k**led 20,000 people last year. The next day you were posting that the flu k**led 20,000 people last year. How is that not calling someone a liar for telling the t***h?

He begins all his posts with "YOUR A LIAR".