Coronavirus, this is getting out of hand.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
Bill_de wrote:
One of the news shows interviewed workers at a testing lab. They said they are ready and waiting, and waiting, and waiting.
I guess not as many people with symptoms are asking to be tested.. That could be because they just stay home thinking they have the flu. That only requires chicken soup and a kiss on the forehead.
There is no sense in testing people without symptoms since negative today could be positive tomorrow. Some people would be asking to be tested twice a day instead of just staying home.
We have a very serious situation, but not catastrophic. Most people who are infected get over it with only mild discomfort for a few days.
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The situation is very serious, this country's response is absolutely catastrophic . . .
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02/united-states-badly-bungled-coronavirus-testing-things-may-soon-improveMostly due to mixed messaging, denial, lies about capacity for testing, expected duration of problem, and minimizing the risk (a week ago 15 were infected, and by this week or next the count was to be down "close to zero" according to the expert who occupies the white house, severity of outbreak, etc. We are all experiencing unnecessary risks in part, due to the lack of understanding and the non-existing leadership. . .
If you think otherwise, I hope you don't catch this thing. There are only a very few people I would wish this on, and you aren't one of them. Stay alert, stay safe. This is more than serious.
Gene51 wrote:
Then you plan accordingly for the larger population. This is not a rational response to the question. You don't build a city to house 10,000,000 people and not the infrastructure to support it - hospitals, water, power, sewer, neighborhood services like restaurants, supermarkets police, fire, sanitation, etc. It doesn't take a genius to understand that you need to need to be strategic, not purely tactical in situations like this.
The more likely scenario is the current administration was caught with it's drawers at it's knees. Not to mention the behavior of the past 3 yrs where all the cuts went to services like the NIH, CDC, and other agencies that could have been providing the correct advice and guidance to be in a better position to respond, and some leadership that had respect for science and scientists. Don't get me started . . .
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You are neglecting to note that the cities infrastructure needs are primarily supplied by the State and local governments. That's not to say the Feds aren't at least partially responsible but to lay all the blame at their feet isn't right either...Plenty of blame to go around...
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
Gene51 wrote:
Then you plan accordingly for the larger population. This is not a rational response to the question. You don't build a city to house 10,000,000 people and not the infrastructure to support it - hospitals, water, power, sewer, neighborhood services like restaurants, supermarkets police, fire, sanitation, etc. It doesn't take a genius to understand that you need to need to be strategic, not purely tactical in situations like this.
The more likely scenario is the current administration was caught with it's drawers at it's knees. Not to mention the behavior of the past 3 yrs where all the cuts went to services like the NIH, CDC, and other agencies that could have been providing the correct advice and guidance to be in a better position to respond, and some leadership that had respect for science and scientists. Don't get me started . . .
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I guess if you could see into the future we would have already been prepared. But we can't so we weren't. No more complicated than that. Flowers and landscapes don't get ill, so I will not stop shooting.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Then again, probably not.
USA population: 327.2 million
China population: 1.435 billion
Not to mention that South Korea is now testing 10,000 a day, and we have yet to test up to 8,000 since the outbreaks began.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
GeneV wrote:
Maybe this has something to do with it:
Australia population in 2017: 24.6 million
USA population in 2018: 327.2 million
Gene
If we keep talking about unwillingness to prepare we will drive this to the attic. There are few kits in the hands of testers. Period.
My 2020 airshow season looks like it's going down the drain, starting with MCAS Yuma this coming weekend, and then all the California airshows. I guess my anticipated test of the D500 & Tamron 150-600 G2 can wait until next year. :-(
GeneV wrote:
Maybe this has something to do with it:
Australia population in 2017: 24.6 million
USA population in 2018: 327.2 million
Gene
Really. We've tested a little better than 11,000 total and S.Korea is testing 10,000 per day. Go figure.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
Gene51 wrote:
Not to mention that South Korea is now testing 10,000 a day, and we have yet to test up to 8,000 since the outbreaks began.
USA population 300 million
S. Korea population 50 million
rehess wrote:
USA population 300 million
S. Korea population 50 million
What's your point? 11,000 total or progressing at the rate of 10,000 per day is the ratio to consider one would think.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
DaveO wrote:
What's your point? 11,000 total or progressing at the rate of 10,000 per day is the ratio to consider one would think.
Facts are facts.
I wasn’t making a point.
PS - I am 72; I have reason to be concerned
MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Well said. Thank you for this.
Come on guys....you can't plan for everything for everybody. If Sleepy Joe were in charge he would say What Virus...
Gene51 wrote:
Not to mention that South Korea is now testing 10,000 a day, and we have yet to test up to 8,000 since the outbreaks began.
Maybe South Korea has that many people who have symptoms. I hear we aren't testing enough people, but haven't heard of people lined up waiting to be tested. I'm not commenting on how our officials are handling this, but the common flu has killed 20,000 in this country during this flu season. As of yesterday coronavirus killed 38. In Italy the deaths reached over 1,000.
We 'may' be losing perspective due to the way the TV media dramatizes everything. Just like they can report 2" of snow as a major snow storm.
We should all take the precautions that are being recommended, just in case. Hopefully it will all be for nothing.
Be well!
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DaveO wrote:
What's your point? 11,000 total or progressing at the rate of 10,000 per day is the ratio to consider one would think.
I think his point was that Korea is closer to the epicenter of the outbreak....
rehess wrote:
Facts are facts.
I wasn’t making a point.
PS - I am 72; I have reason to be concerned
Fact is, what does total population have to do with the number of people tested? I'm in my 70's as well, but I can still understand math. Flash: We don't have enough kits or the ability to analyze them quick enough. Coming along daily, but we're flat footed and trying to tap dance.
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