Obamacare k**led 80,000 people in 2015: May 7, 2017 Obamacare k**led 80,000 people in 2015 By Karin McQuillan Guy Benson at Townhall puts the lie to Democrat accusations that the GOP...

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

May 7, 2017
Obamacare k**led 80,000 people in 2015
By Karin McQuillan
Guy Benson at Townhall puts the lie to Democrat accusations that the GOP "repeal and replace" bill will k**l Americans. It seems that Obamacare has already done that.

Quoting Oren Cass over at National Review, it turns out that fewer people – not more people – had health insurance after Obamacare. The only increase in "coverage" was Medicaid, but, sadly, it turns out that Medicaid k**ls people. It's better to have no medical insurance at all.

This public-versus-private distinction is crucial, because studies of Medicaid do not find the same positive effects on mortality sometimes seen in studies of private insurance. Researchers have found that Medicaid patients with a variety of conditions and medical needs experience worse outcomes than similar uninsured patients. ...

Public-health data from the Centers for Disease Control confirm... [that h]ad mortality continued to decline during ACA implementation in 2014 and 2015 at the same rate as during the 2000-13 period, 80,000 fewer Americans would have died in 2015 alone.

Cass and Benson are both honest enough to point out that correlation does not prove causation. Obesity and drug abuse also correlate with the rising death rate. What can be said factually is that "[t]he best statistical estimate of the number of lives saved each year by the ACA is zero."

Fearmongering for political gain is a typical Progressive tactic. Democrats are hurting real people with their scary shrieking about death by Republican. The grandstanding by GOP senators unwilling to repeal a single federal gimme from Obamacare is more of the same self-serving nonsense. Continuing Obamacare's messed up system is not good for the healthy or the sick.

Eighty thousand people "helped" by Obamacare are no longer here to agree with Ronald Reagan's famous quote: "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/05/obamacare_k**led_80000_people_in_2015.html

Angmo

Folks are happy as hell escaping Obakapig care and getting real healthcare.

sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri

idaholover wrote:

May 7, 2017
Obamacare k**led 80,000 people in 2015
By Karin McQuillan
Guy Benson at Townhall puts the lie to Democrat accusations that the GOP "repeal and replace" bill will k**l Americans. It seems that Obamacare has already done that.

Quoting Oren Cass over at National Review, it turns out that fewer people – not more people – had health insurance after Obamacare. The only increase in "coverage" was Medicaid, but, sadly, it turns out that Medicaid k**ls people. It's better to have no medical insurance at all.

This public-versus-private distinction is crucial, because studies of Medicaid do not find the same positive effects on mortality sometimes seen in studies of private insurance. Researchers have found that Medicaid patients with a variety of conditions and medical needs experience worse outcomes than similar uninsured patients. ...

Public-health data from the Centers for Disease Control confirm... [that h]ad mortality continued to decline during ACA implementation in 2014 and 2015 at the same rate as during the 2000-13 period, 80,000 fewer Americans would have died in 2015 alone.

Cass and Benson are both honest enough to point out that correlation does not prove causation. Obesity and drug abuse also correlate with the rising death rate. What can be said factually is that "[t]he best statistical estimate of the number of lives saved each year by the ACA is zero."

Fearmongering for political gain is a typical Progressive tactic. Democrats are hurting real people with their scary shrieking about death by Republican. The grandstanding by GOP senators unwilling to repeal a single federal gimme from Obamacare is more of the same self-serving nonsense. Continuing Obamacare's messed up system is not good for the healthy or the sick.

Eighty thousand people "helped" by Obamacare are no longer here to agree with Ronald Reagan's famous quote: "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/05/obamacare_k**led_80000_people_in_2015.html

May 7, 2017 br Obamacare k**led 80,000 people in 2... (show quote)

Hey...I have a great idea..! Cuba is only 90-miles off our shore and I've been told that Socialism and C*******m are wonderful forms of "Government of the People" with their government provided healthcare. So let's remove any obstacles making it difficult to travel there and get some boats and setup a "free" ferry to take those who want the government to provide their healthcare for them (and free education too) to get there.

Even better, we can help them become citizens of Cuba for all they have to do is to renounce their U.S. Citizenship and those here that want to live in a Socialist/C*******t Society can actually make their dreams come true living in the land of sunshine and milk and honey....as I'm told by so many.

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

sippyjug104 wrote:

Cuba is only 90-miles off our shore and I've been told that Socialism and C*******m are wonderful forms of "Government of the People" with their government provided healthcare. So let's remove any obstacles making it difficult to travel there and get some boats and setup a "free" ferry to take those who want the government to provide their healthcare for them (and free education too) to get there.

GREAT IDEA !!! Sounds like an organizer position available for Bernie.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

travelwp wrote:

GREAT IDEA !!! Sounds like an organizer position available for Bernie.

Tour guide

Steelecrique Loc: Pineville, NC

What, again??!! https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-thinker/ Really???

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Steelecrique wrote:

What, again??!! https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-thinker/ Really???

The thread should have been preface with "Once upon a time..."

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

DaveO wrote:

The thread should have been preface with "Once upon a time..."

There was a King, a very evil King who promised his people they could keep their doctor and pay $2500.00/year less for better health care than they already have.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

Steelecrique wrote:

What, again??!! https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-thinker/ Really???

I noticed you guy’s never troll Krackhead’s posts with this bulls**t reply.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

idaholover wrote:

There was a King, a very evil King who promised his people they could keep their doctor and pay $2500.00/year less for better health care than they already have.

Yeah, hold that thought instead of thinking....easier and someone tells you what to say.

Yeah, there are plenty test kits and all you have to do is ask...

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

idaholover wrote:

I noticed you guy’s never troll Krackhead’s posts with this bulls**t reply.

Really?? Who else is making that reply? Do you ever fact check anything?

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

DaveO wrote:

Yeah, hold that thought instead of thinking....easier and someone tells you what to say.

Yeah, there are plenty test kits and all you have to do is ask...

I checked in with my primary care provider yesterday following an informational email from them and was told they were available. Maybe you need to move.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

DaveO wrote:

Really?? Who else is making that reply? Do you ever fact check anything?

Don’t play stupid. I have applied the same critique to rawstory and politicusa with the same results only opposite bias. I’m calling you out on your one sided hypocritical support.

EyeSawYou

idaholover wrote:

May 7, 2017
Obamacare k**led 80,000 people in 2015
By Karin McQuillan
Guy Benson at Townhall puts the lie to Democrat accusations that the GOP "repeal and replace" bill will k**l Americans. It seems that Obamacare has already done that.

Quoting Oren Cass over at National Review, it turns out that fewer people – not more people – had health insurance after Obamacare. The only increase in "coverage" was Medicaid, but, sadly, it turns out that Medicaid k**ls people. It's better to have no medical insurance at all.

This public-versus-private distinction is crucial, because studies of Medicaid do not find the same positive effects on mortality sometimes seen in studies of private insurance. Researchers have found that Medicaid patients with a variety of conditions and medical needs experience worse outcomes than similar uninsured patients. ...

Public-health data from the Centers for Disease Control confirm... [that h]ad mortality continued to decline during ACA implementation in 2014 and 2015 at the same rate as during the 2000-13 period, 80,000 fewer Americans would have died in 2015 alone.

Cass and Benson are both honest enough to point out that correlation does not prove causation. Obesity and drug abuse also correlate with the rising death rate. What can be said factually is that "[t]he best statistical estimate of the number of lives saved each year by the ACA is zero."

Fearmongering for political gain is a typical Progressive tactic. Democrats are hurting real people with their scary shrieking about death by Republican. The grandstanding by GOP senators unwilling to repeal a single federal gimme from Obamacare is more of the same self-serving nonsense. Continuing Obamacare's messed up system is not good for the healthy or the sick.

Eighty thousand people "helped" by Obamacare are no longer here to agree with Ronald Reagan's famous quote: "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/05/obamacare_k**led_80000_people_in_2015.html

May 7, 2017 br Obamacare k**led 80,000 people in 2... (show quote)

Just reading the title without having read the article you posted, I would say that this claim is bogus.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

idaholover wrote:

I checked in with my primary care provider yesterday following an informational email from them and was told they were available. Maybe you need to move.

Yeah, that f**e news is terrible. I guess all the big guys are lying to us.