This was taken with a 500 f4 lens. I had the camera on a monopod and leaning against a tree for a sturdy support. The settings are 1/30 f32 iso 200. The only filter is a UV.
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Travelfan wrote:
Always wanted to be able to take these pictures with a tripod but never knew how. Need what kind of filter/what travel tripod and what settings on my Canon T7I? Will be used seldom for this type of picture...so "budget cost" is a must. Thank you.
A Tiffen 10 stop filter will do nicely, I use the 10 stop filter because it is easy to use.
1. meter scene to get a 1/30 sec. exposure
2. after focusing, turn off auto focus and make sure eye piece is covered. Also use a tripod.
3. attach filter and set camera speed to 30 seconds, leave f stop untouched.
4. Take photo, it is that easy.
Shot below way taken with a tiffen $20.00 filter.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1107528-REG/tiffen_49nd30_49mm_axent_nd_3_0.html?sts=pi&pim=Y
Travelfan wrote:
You are talking to somebody who has an "auto" camera for a reason...just like a car. No hassels. 10 stop? No idea what that means. Somebody said get a #6 B&W nd lens. I looked those up and the cost (for one or two times used) is out of this world. If I was 21 instead of 71 and get tons of years use I'd say yes. But with health problems I will get little use out of it. Lets go budget. I hope my Canon has a "simple setting" for what I need....otherwise buying a filter/tripod for me would be a waste. Besides...nobody has said "you should have used a nd filter/10 stop for that waterfall next time.
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I don't think your camera will have a "simple setting" for what you need. You'll want to set in a low ISO setting like ISO 50 or ISO 100. You'll want to stop down the aperture some. There are many excellent ND filters on the market. Hoya makes excellent ones. Here's a 3-stop ND filter that would be a good place to start. You can always get stronger ones in the future. Just get the correct diameter for your lens.
As been stated experiment. I like waterfalls both silky and rough. You decide.
CO wrote:
Incorrect. Diffraction does make a difference. It definitely softens the image. If a longer exposure is needed, a stronger ND filter is the way to go.
Argumentatively, technically, yes, diffraction does make
a difference.
Does it matter to
everyone?
No.
Is it noticeable by everyone?
Maybe.
I am serious! You all must realize I have no idea what 10 stop/ND filter means. Thanks for the advice everybody. I will use it on my trip to Glacier National Park in JUNE!
Just to see what you can do without added gear, go out to a waterfall on a cloudy day or after sunset. This eliminates the sun glare and will allow for longer shutter speeds without filters. Target a shutter speed of 1 second to start. Of course you need a stable tripod. You can use aperture priority to start and increase the apertureuntil the shutter speed is about 1/4 sec. Take an image and look at the result. Then increase the aperture up to the max (f22?) taking a shot each time to see the results. The strength of the water fall vs shutter speed determines the best looking result. Have fun with it. But in the end, you’ll want some filters so you can shoot in most situations.
I use a 10 stop ND filter; I shoot in Aperture Priority Mode (at f/16); I start with the ND filter at 1 and get focus; I switch the lens to manual focus; I darken the ND filter and then take the shot. I examine the screen and decide whether or not to increase or decrease the ND filter.
Longshadow wrote:
Argumentatively, technically, yes, diffraction does make a difference.
Does it matter to everyone?
No.
Is it noticeable by everyone?
Maybe.
For low cost silk as the OP wants, some compromise is in order. I imagine a cheap nd filter might also affect image quality, so they will have to see what they can live with. A polarizer can eat 2 stops if they have one, so maybe that and a cloudy day?
You need a neutral density filter (I use either a 6 or a 10 stop filter), a small aperture, low ISO (100), a tripod, and a cable/wireless release (or use the 2 second timer in your camera). Don’t get too cheap on the filters, BTW.
Travelfan wrote:
I am serious! You all must realize I have no idea what 10 stop/ND filter means. Thanks for the advice everybody. I will use it on my trip to Glacier National Park in JUNE!
Did you read the article linked earlier? It explains it.
Enjoy Glacier, the road isn't usually fully open to the upper elevations until late June, but maybe you will have good luck.
Learning the basics of exposure will help you in all kinds of lighting situations and make it easier for you to understand advice regarding slow shutter speeds, small apertures (f/stops) and light-darkening filters.
There are many beginner books and videos; it doesn't have to be overwhelming if you take it slowly. Best wishes for your trip!
Get a neutral density filter and experiment. Shutter speeds will vary depending on the effect that you want.
Travelfan wrote:
You are talking to somebody who has an "auto" camera for a reason...just like a car. No hassels. 10 stop? No idea what that means. Somebody said get a #6 B&W nd lens. I looked those up and the cost (for one or two times used) is out of this world. If I was 21 instead of 71 and get tons of years use I'd say yes. But with health problems I will get little use out of it. Lets go budget. I hope my Canon has a "simple setting" for what I need....otherwise buying a filter/tripod for me would be a waste. Besides...nobody has said "you should have used a nd filter/10 stop for that waterfall next time.
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You ask a question, people take their time to give you answers, then you complain because you’re not willing to put in the time and money to get the results you want. Not very appreciative of the advice.
Good information above about using filters particularly on very bright days. However, if you are shooting in early morning or late evening light or on cloudy days, you may not need additional neutral density filters. Set you camera's ISO to the lowest possible setting (ISO = 64 or 100). Set a small f-stop like f20 or f22 and you should get shutter speeds below 1/25 seconds. This will get you started on smoother, milky water from waterfalls. If you have a circular polarizer already, add the CP which will reduce light at least one additional stop.
Unless it is a very dark, cloudy day you will probably need a ND filter to go beyond a 1 second exposure
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