Coronavirus: Let's have a civil discussion
Mar 4, 2020 08:00:42 #
fourlocks wrote:
Exactly! However, studies have shown that people wearing masks tend to constantly reach up and move them to adjust their fit, talk on the phone, eat, drink, etc. thus bringing their hands in contact with their faces...one of the worst things you can do.
I skipped purchasing masks and instead stocked up on 3 cases of beer and 21 bags of pork rinds so I now feel pretty confident I can survive a 14-day quarantine.
I skipped purchasing masks and instead stocked up on 3 cases of beer and 21 bags of pork rinds so I now feel pretty confident I can survive a 14-day quarantine.
I think I’ll go with your plan😊
Mar 4, 2020 08:03:34 #
fourlocks wrote:
I skipped purchasing masks and instead stocked up on 3 cases of beer and 21 bags of pork rinds so I now feel pretty confident I can survive a 14-day quarantine.
And why isn't this advice published anywhere?!
Mar 4, 2020 08:28:58 #
I'm no fan of the face mask profiteers who have quickly appeared. Or of the folks who say it's like the flu so I'm happy to see this detailed look at the Coronovirus to date.
If I remember correctly one of the CDC doctors said the virus is likely to spread to 40 to 60 percent of the U.S. population before it runs its course. Because of its relatively high mortality rate, I'm wondering if anyone with medical expertise has thoughts on that. If true, it does sound like it will be like the 1918 Spanish flu (and those cases of beer and bags of pork rinds might be a good survival practice.)
If I remember correctly one of the CDC doctors said the virus is likely to spread to 40 to 60 percent of the U.S. population before it runs its course. Because of its relatively high mortality rate, I'm wondering if anyone with medical expertise has thoughts on that. If true, it does sound like it will be like the 1918 Spanish flu (and those cases of beer and bags of pork rinds might be a good survival practice.)
Mar 4, 2020 08:34:39 #
Remember SARS Pandemic; also started in China, was present in 26 countries world wide, 774 fatalities and a created somewhat panicked population because again, scientists had never seen a virus like this before. Since SARS, there's been major outbreaks of Zika, MERS, Swine Flu and Ebola and others. With each and everyone of these outbreaks (also pandemics), the world (WHO & the US) has worked cooperatively with quarantines, isolations, increased speed in vaccine research and other methods to resolve and reduce the effects and spread of these diseases......and also help to quell the panic.
With appropriate precautions, good sanitary habits, appropriate research, communication world-wide, this too will pass. The US has taken the lead and has tried to get out in front of this pandemic. However, if China continues to be as secretive as they've been in the past, not forthcoming with these illnesses when first discovered, we'll have another outbreak in the future, plan on it.
With appropriate precautions, good sanitary habits, appropriate research, communication world-wide, this too will pass. The US has taken the lead and has tried to get out in front of this pandemic. However, if China continues to be as secretive as they've been in the past, not forthcoming with these illnesses when first discovered, we'll have another outbreak in the future, plan on it.
Mar 4, 2020 08:36:23 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
What amazes me, is all the countries that have people who have this virus. It's now global. I went to Costco to buy a hot dog and pizza. And the food preparers were all wearing face masks. I don't know if it was mandatory or voluntary? I never saw that in the past visits. Before this Virus became known.
Mar 4, 2020 08:36:35 #
Sunnely wrote:
The main goal is to educate and inform one another... (show quote)
In Australia, there is a bout of panic buying. Grocery shelves are empty.
But the most astonishing thing, to me is that the shelves that are empty, is for toilet paper & tissues.
What can it be about Civid19 that makes anyone use so much toilet paper, suddenly??.
One would have to be very hungry to want to eat it.
We see loaded up trolleys exiting the supermarkets with dozens of rolls, packs of 6 or 12 rolls.
Mass purchases of face masks are leaving hospitals & medical ppl who really need them, short of supplies.
The advise put to the public is telling us not to panic. Statistics going around lately highlights the figures of Covid 19 in comparison with the seasonal Flu, as minimal. More ppl die annually from the flu globally.
The world has gone mad???
Mar 4, 2020 08:38:06 #
Mar 4, 2020 08:43:50 #
Medical personnel use a different n95 mask, specially fitted so that there are no spaces around the edges. It’s also a better filter. I had a new one fitted each year I was an EMT.
Mar 4, 2020 08:50:35 #
Bunko.T wrote:
The advice put to the public is telling us not to panic. Statistics going around lately highlights the figures of Covid 19 in comparison with the seasonal Flu, as minimal. More ppl die annually from the flu globally. The world has gone mad???
I always love it when our politicians and media tell us "not to panic." What's the first reaction this advice results in? People panic!
If the Spanish flu repeated today, the mortality rate would be much lower simply because we now understand viruses better and know how to respond better. Same thing with Covid 19. If you notice, most of the U.S. deaths were among the "at risk" population who generally have other medical complications. However, I'd be scared shitless if I was in poor health in a nursing home and other residents started coming down with it.
Mar 4, 2020 08:55:26 #
Mar 4, 2020 09:07:16 #
fourlocks wrote:
Exactly! However, studies have shown that people wearing masks tend to constantly reach up and move them to adjust their fit, talk on the phone, eat, drink, etc. thus bringing their hands in contact with their faces...one of the worst things you can do.
I skipped purchasing masks and instead stocked up on 3 cases of beer and 21 bags of pork rinds so I now feel pretty confident I can survive a 14-day quarantine.
I skipped purchasing masks and instead stocked up on 3 cases of beer and 21 bags of pork rinds so I now feel pretty confident I can survive a 14-day quarantine.
Mar 4, 2020 09:18:45 #
This virus, like all viruses, is very small. This virus passing thru a face mask is like you walking thru a door 500 feet wide. The mask may help if the virus is riding on a droplet of something.
Mar 4, 2020 09:19:33 #
Just read this. Article said it won't be like Spanish flu pandemic, but:
"Infectious disease experts in recent days have said the coronavirus could create a pandemic on a similar scale to, or even surpassing, the 1957 influenza contagion. That pandemic was caused by a virus related to one found in birds that entered the human population somewhere in Southeast Asia and sickened a quarter billion people, killing more than a million, including 70,000 in the United States. The flu and the current outbreak are caused by different viruses."
That U.S. death rate isn't much higher than the 60,000 or so flu deaths in the U.S. annually.
So, maybe one-case-of-beer serious rather than three-case-of-beer serious . . . unless, of course, you're in one of the more susceptible demographics.
"Infectious disease experts in recent days have said the coronavirus could create a pandemic on a similar scale to, or even surpassing, the 1957 influenza contagion. That pandemic was caused by a virus related to one found in birds that entered the human population somewhere in Southeast Asia and sickened a quarter billion people, killing more than a million, including 70,000 in the United States. The flu and the current outbreak are caused by different viruses."
That U.S. death rate isn't much higher than the 60,000 or so flu deaths in the U.S. annually.
So, maybe one-case-of-beer serious rather than three-case-of-beer serious . . . unless, of course, you're in one of the more susceptible demographics.
Mar 4, 2020 09:27:47 #
Sunnely wrote:
The main goal is to educate and inform one another... (show quote)
Well done and thank you. There really is no need to panic. Remember thousands of people die from the regular flu. If you have chronic medical issues or compromised immune system then just stay home as much as possible. Most masks are worthless because people don't know what to look for. N95 has to be fitted to be really protective. There are medical grade surgical masks used in hospitals. Those will help somewhat. The only ones I have found are made by Curad, they are marked anti-viral. these are what we used to wear when I was working. Unfortunately people panicked and just bought all of whatever was available so now nothing worthwhile is available at all.
Just wash those hands and try to not touch your face. Because I am immune compromised and only have a couple of anti viral masks left, I am just staying home and away from others as much as possible. I also have sinus infection so am at risk. But even with all that the risk is low. It will pass but may return again next year just like the flu
Mar 4, 2020 09:35:34 #
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