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Feb 27, 2020 13:27:42   #
Chuckwal Loc: Boynton Beach Florida
 
Rusty
looks like you removed Bokeh or sensor problem
chuck

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Feb 27, 2020 13:54:32   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
These kinds of topics are fun because of the wildly varying guesses. The exif says no flash was used. What is the light source that is brightening the twig on right and making a strong shadow from the butterfly's wing?

To me the spots look like similar to an out of focus drop of water, or reflection/flare caused by the light source.

If they are on your sensor or lens, some controlled test shots will show them again.


My first reaction was it was bright spots in the background out of focus.

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Feb 27, 2020 14:19:56   #
RustyM
 
RustyM wrote:
The uploaded photo has two spots, one off the left antenna of the butterfly and one of the tip of its left wing. Can anyone tell me what caused these and the best way to remove them? I tried using the spot healing tool in PS, but it didn't do a very satisfactory job. Thanks in advance for your help.


Linda of Maine predicted this would be fun because of the wildly varying guesses about the causes of the spots. She was certainly right. At least one person asked me to follow up with any conclusion about the cause, but first let me say what I'm pretty certain did not cause them. Spots on the sensor or lens: it's a fixed lens camera (Sony RX10M4); I checked the front of the lens, and it was clean; the spots only appeared in one shot. Sun spots: I was using a lens hood; the angle of the shot was down toward the ground; the aperture was wide open. Several folks (Linda first) suggested they were out of focus water drops reflecting sun in the background, and I'm pretty sure that's what they were. The butterfly (White Peacock) was against vegetation, and it had rained the night before, so there were likely water droplets present.

Thanks to those (particularly beirer) who offered tips on using PS tools to remove the spots. I've uploaded a retouched image with this post. Much improved, I think, although I'm not entirely satisfied with the spot off the antenna. I need more practice. BTW, my original post was poorly worded. I should have said "I", rather than "it", didn't do a very satisfactory job. I didn't mean to suggest PS was inadequate.

Thanks again to everyone for all the help.

Rusty



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Feb 27, 2020 15:40:11   #
russraman Loc: New York City
 
RustyM wrote:
The uploaded photo has two spots, one off the left antenna of the butterfly and one of the tip of its left wing. Can anyone tell me what caused these and the best way to remove them? I tried using the spot healing tool in PS, but it didn't do a very satisfactory job. Thanks in advance for your help.


I don't know what caused the spots (dirty lens, mold or fungus on one of the elements, sensor dirt, etc.) but I was able to easily remove them simply using the edit / retouch tool in Apple's Photos on my Macbook Pro. My edit is attached. Not a super "professional" fix, but effective.



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Feb 27, 2020 16:43:40   #
tgreenhaw
 
You didn't mention if its in the same place on every frame. If so its equipment, if not its weird bokeh from a bright spot in the background.

My approach for correction would be the clone stamp tool in Photoshop. You will likely want to use the lasso to isolate the antenna, select inverse and then use a big brush - say 160 pixels


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Feb 27, 2020 17:02:17   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
RustyM wrote:
The uploaded photo has two spots, one off the left antenna of the butterfly and one of the tip of its left wing. Can anyone tell me what caused these and the best way to remove them? I tried using the spot healing tool in PS, but it didn't do a very satisfactory job. Thanks in advance for your help.


Spots are caused by light reflection. Use the clone tool in PS.

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Feb 27, 2020 19:44:00   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
RustyM wrote:
Linda of Maine predicted this would be fun because of the wildly varying guesses about the causes of the spots. She was certainly right. At least one person asked me to follow up with any conclusion about the cause, but first let me say what I'm pretty certain did not cause them. Spots on the sensor or lens: it's a fixed lens camera (Sony RX10M4); I checked the front of the lens, and it was clean; the spots only appeared in one shot. Sun spots: I was using a lens hood; the angle of the shot was down toward the ground; the aperture was wide open. Several folks (Linda first) suggested they were out of focus water drops reflecting sun in the background, and I'm pretty sure that's what they were. The butterfly (White Peacock) was against vegetation, and it had rained the night before, so there were likely water droplets present.

Thanks to those (particularly beirer) who offered tips on using PS tools to remove the spots. I've uploaded a retouched image with this post. Much improved, I think, although I'm not entirely satisfied with the spot off the antenna. I need more practice. BTW, my original post was poorly worded. I should have said "I", rather than "it", didn't do a very satisfactory job. I didn't mean to suggest PS was inadequate.

Thanks again to everyone for all the help.

Rusty
Linda of Maine predicted this would be fun because... (show quote)


Thanks Rusty.......it was very exciting to read all the responses to your questions and it was worth every moment of it . Glad you resolved the issue. Good luck to you sir.

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Feb 27, 2020 20:02:07   #
RustyM
 
👍

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Feb 28, 2020 08:05:13   #
Tom Hungerford Loc: Thomaston CT
 
I agree with Linda from Maine. They simply look like out-of-focus water drops in the background. Hardly anything to worry about, but try the spot-healing in PS.

Tom

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Feb 28, 2020 14:53:12   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
RustyM wrote:
The uploaded photo has two spots, one off the left antenna of the butterfly and one of the tip of its left wing. Can anyone tell me what caused these and the best way to remove them? I tried using the spot healing tool in PS, but it didn't do a very satisfactory job. Thanks in advance for your help.


Beautiful image, Rusty, and your touch ups worked well.

Also, I thoroughly enjoyed reading all of the wild speculation and the various proposed remedies.

I get spots just like that all of the time from water droplets on plants.

Mike

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Feb 28, 2020 17:10:53   #
RustyM
 

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Feb 28, 2020 22:18:06   #
smussler Loc: Land O Lakes, FL - Formerly Miller Place, NY
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I have an EXIF viewer in my Chrome browser as well and it didn't show the EXIF info.... Maybe I need a different one...The one you linked to shows as a "not secure" website. Could just be my Norton anti virus though...

Edit:
If I download the image and right click, then the EXIF info link shows. If I try to view it from the original post, it does not...


Try Phil Harvey's exiftool.exe - Free.

https://exiftool.org/

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