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Feb 26, 2020 13:17:22   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Since there was a post on D300 whose battery died I got curious, as usual.

Today I scratched that itch.

Nikon does use internal battery (big surprise there). This battery is easily accessible for DIY folks.

You just need to unscrew the camera back, remove it carefully.
The battery is revealed. The - contact is soldered to a small metal connector itself connected to the camera board.
To change the battery is simple:
- remove the thin metal frame protecting the circuit for ease of access.
- 'unsolder' the metal connector from the board
- Unsolder it from the battery.
- Take the battery to a jewelry store to get the exact model
- solder the metal connector to the battery (careful of polarity)
- Solder the connector to the board.
- Re-attache the protective metal frame
- position and re-screw the back onto the camera body

You are done.

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Feb 26, 2020 13:42:55   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
That 'un-soldering' and soldering will require advance DIY soldering practice I guess. Even more on the board side connector

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Feb 26, 2020 14:20:52   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Since there was a post on D300 whose battery died I got curious, as usual.

Today I scratched that itch.

Nikon does use internal battery (big surprise there). This battery is easily accessible for DIY folks.

You just need to unscrew the camera back, remove it carefully.
The battery is revealed. The - contact is soldered to a small metal connector itself connected to the camera board.
To change the battery is simple:
- remove the thin metal frame protecting the circuit for ease of access.
- 'unsolder' the metal connector from the board
- Unsolder it from the battery.
- Take the battery to a jewelry store to get the exact model
- solder the metal connector to the battery (careful of polarity)
- Solder the connector to the board.
- Re-attache the protective metal frame
- position and re-screw the back onto the camera body

You are done.
Since there was a post on D300 whose battery died ... (show quote)


It is a surprise to you that there is a internal batterie????? Cameras have and always had internal batteries, that hasn't changed in a hundred years!

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Feb 26, 2020 14:24:39   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
speters wrote:
It is a surprise to you that there is a internal batterie????? Cameras have and always had internal batteries, that hasn't changed in a hundred years!

See the (big surprise there)?????????

What does that tell you?

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Feb 26, 2020 15:14:58   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
speters wrote:
It is a surprise to you that there is a internal batterie????? Cameras have and always had internal batteries, that hasn't changed in a hundred years!


There are internal batteries and internal batteries. We're talking about small lithium batteries that keep certain circuits powered like settings, time etc, even if there is no battery or a dead battery inserted to power the camera. Every computer has one of these batteries to keep the bios/clock powered, even if you unplug it or remove the main battery. I personally wouldn't go into my Nikon D810 with a soldering iron, and I'm pretty good at soldering.

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Feb 26, 2020 15:18:47   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Capacitor or battery...there is a difference.

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Feb 26, 2020 15:22:59   #
BebuLamar
 
DaveO wrote:
Capacitor or battery...there is a difference.


Super capacitors have been used in place of the small battery that keeps the clock running. Today with flash memories the battery is only needed for the time and not the settings.

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Feb 26, 2020 15:30:14   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Super capacitors have been used in place of the small battery that keeps the clock running. Today with flash memories the battery is only needed for the time and not the settings.


I am quite aware and just threw that post out thinking that some may research and stumble across the super caps used in numerous cameras
.

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Feb 26, 2020 16:35:55   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
DaveO wrote:
Capacitor or battery...there is a difference.


Who mentioned capacitors?
Just wondering how that fit in this question.

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Feb 26, 2020 16:40:54   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
newtoyou wrote:
Who mentioned capacitors?
Just wondering how that fit in this question.

Some cameras use capacitors. Theses are not replaceable or hard to do.

While this is not mentioned in the original post, it is a possibility for other cameras. No big deal.

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Feb 26, 2020 18:04:54   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
newtoyou wrote:
Who mentioned capacitors?
Just wondering how that fit in this question.


I brought up capacitors because that is actually what the internal power is in many cameras. It is temporarily charged by the external battery. I was hoping to stimulate some to take a couple minutes and gain a little first hand info.

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Feb 26, 2020 18:06:36   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Self-doubt can be an ally. It can serve as an indicator of the need for a new camera.

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Feb 26, 2020 18:23:00   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Self-doubt can be an ally. It can serve as an indicator of the need for a new camera.



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Feb 26, 2020 18:31:03   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Some early camcorders and cameras have a coin cell slide-out battery. My Kodak DCS PRO SLR/14nx has one, along with my Sony TR-4 camcorder.

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Feb 26, 2020 18:46:29   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
DaveO wrote:
I brought up capacitors because that is actually what the internal power is in many cameras. It is temporarily charged by the external battery. I was hoping to stimulate some to take a couple minutes and gain a little first hand info.


I never thought about it before, but I can understand how that would be now. The question I have is how long do these capacitors maintain their charge if the main battery is removed from the camera.

I got a Seiko Kinetic watch more than 20 years ago. It was one of the first ones. A generator in the watch, powered by your wrist and arm movements, charged a capacitor. The capacitor would keep the watch running for 3 days. If you didn't wear it for 3 days, it stopped running. The capacitor failed twice and was replaced twice. When it failed a third time, Seiko put a rechargeable lithium battery in the watch. It would keep the watch running for 6 months on full charge. That first battery lasted for more than 10 years. They just replaced it again last year.

I like to hold onto some things.

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