John from gpwmi wrote:
Micro 4/3's is half the size in area (two dimensions) thus it is ¼ the area of FF. Therefore, it would have the pixel density of an 80Mp FF.
In good light, it's a "Who cares?"
I have used the OMD EM1 markII. I previously used Nikon F2S, Nikon F3, Nikon 4s. As I got older I got tired carrying these heavy cameras with F2.8 tele zoom lenses. Therefore when I abandoned film I moved to the smaller MFT system. Despite the use of the “faster” lenses the bokeh I desired was not achievable so I opted instead for Sony A7RIV.
I did like the higher frames per second the Olympus offered. Great little camera, excellent images but did not give me the portrait results I desired.
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
calvinbell wrote:
Has anyone had any exposure to the new olympus camera? Does anyone here use the OMD EM1 Mar II? What is your opinion of this system. Seems they kept the same 20mp sensor, but added alot of bells and whistles. Wondering what people think to the micro 4/3rds system of olympus in reference to resolution, usability etc....
The new camera is a step up towards the E-M1X. It will probably have an accessory vertical grip to add another battery and it will not have the AI that the E-M1X has. There will be probably a few other items that the E-M1X will have but the E-M1mkIII will not. One of the reviews that I have read complained about how old the sensor is. They had expected a new and more improved sensor. The reviewer still admitted, that for an older sensor, it is still a very good camera. He agrees that he liked it most for the ability to travel easily with it and having lenses that are second to none. He just believes they could have and should have done better sensor wise. I suspect Olympus may come out with a new sensor with the release of the E-M1X mkII later (?) this year.
I suspect your question is really which body to buy. Personally, I would start looking at the E-M5 series level and up because I like to be able to shoot in wind, dust, rain, and salt spray without a big worry about camera failure (E-M5mrII, E-M5mkIII, E-M1mkII, E-M1mkIII, and E-M1X). It also guarantees an IS of 5.5 stops or better no matter which body you choose. That can be important for traveling to other countries and backpacking; leave the tripod at home. If you can afford just one Pro lens, buy the 12-100 f4 Pro IS lens. You will not regret it. It is a gem beyond belief. Olympus has put out a 12-200 f3.5/6.3 weatherproof
non-Pro lens. Although it is a very good lens with a great range, it does not have the Pro type sharpness around the 100mm mark. The other two cheaper Pro lens options are the 12-40 f2.8 Pro lens and the brand new 12-45 f4 Pro lens. I first questioned their bring out another lens so close to the same range, but there is a trade off of range and f-stop for a lower cost lens. Both are excellent options if you can not afford the 12-100. All three of these Pro lenses are very sharp.
Now having talked Olympus, if you do a substantial amount of video along with stills, you may want to consider Panasonic. Contact UHH member Burkphoto or research some of his postings for the best advice for Panasonic and still / video.
DeanS
Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
I had one for a yr or so. Liked the camera, though the menu sys was highly frustrating to me.
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
DeanS wrote:
I had one for a yr or so. Liked the camera, though the menu sys was highly frustrating to me.
DeanS, I know of no one that is particularly fond of the scroll menu including myself. I usually do everything I can in the SCP (Super Control Panel). It is just harder than most scroll menus to master. I have become more familiar with it, but still do not consider myself a master of it. Once mastered, one has almost total control of the image beyond what other cameras can do.
calvinbell wrote:
Has anyone had any exposure to the new olympus camera? Does anyone here use the OMD EM1 Mar II? What is your opinion of this system.
Not much to say, here, that hasn't already been said. I own a couple of Oly cams, PEN-F, EM10 MkII. I just bought an EM1 MkII and first impressions is.., WOW! I love them all, no matter the pixel count.
I must say I'm also impressed at how many Olympus M4/3 users are on this forum. Don't see a lot of gab from them, and I can only guess most are very satisfied with this "sleeper" brand.., I rest my case.
DeanS
Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
wdross wrote:
DeanS, I know of no one that is particularly fond of the scroll menu including myself. I usually do everything I can in the SCP (Super Control Panel). It is just harder than most scroll menus to master. I have become more familiar with it, but still do not consider myself a master of it. Once mastered, one has almost total control of the image beyond what other cameras can do.
I enjoyed the E-M1/II. I started in digital in early 90s with an Oly, D600 I think. Over the years I had a series of Olys as newer ones came to mkt. When the E series came out, they became my fav. I had all three at some point. The E5 was a great shooter, and is my all time fav, including my high-end Canons, which I have stayed with. I wish Oly had stayed with that orig E series.
I think Oly could make improvements to the new micro 4/3rds rigs. Canon, I feel, has the most intuitive, easiest to navigate menus.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
DeanS wrote:
Canon, I feel, has the most intuitive, easiest to navigate menus.
I haven’t used a Canon in the past year, but the last few from Pentax allow one to change any arm of the ‘exposure triangle’ without removing the camera from his/her eye.
Beenthere wrote:
I must say I'm also impressed at how many Olympus M4/3 users are on this forum. Don't see a lot of gab from them, and I can only guess most are very satisfied with this "sleeper" brand.., I rest my case.
I was a little louder (and obnoxious) a few years ago, for those around here before 2019 may remember. Nearly banned a few times too
I have the Olympus M1 Mark 2. The kit came with 2 PRO zoom lenes. I have not gone out and bought any new lenes except for 45mm 1.2. The kit lenes are spot on.
I shoot Nikon for 15 years, the last a D500. That is a great camera. Why the brand change, weight, bad back.
Not disappointed in the change except for the low light, in the Olympus. Only problem.
Cdouthitt wrote:
I was a little louder (and obnoxious) a few years ago, for those around here before 2019 may remember. Nearly banned a few times too
Sometime we, of the enlightened few, must quietly stand by and wait for the masses to realize their mistakes in pre-judging a product without proper hands-on experience. I would advise watching this very interesting YouTube video by professional studio photographer Joe Edelman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx2ny12phQg
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
Beenthere wrote:
Sometime we, of the enlightened few, must quietly stand by and wait for the masses to realize their mistakes in pre-judging a product without proper hands-on experience. I would advise watching this very interesting YouTube video by professional studio photographer Joe Edelman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx2ny12phQgI had hear of Joe Edelman but never looked him up. He makes an enjoyable video and takes great care to emphasize these are only his reasons for what he shoots. And his pictures show he knows how to shoot a camera no matter what name is on it. I found his thoughts about making photography fun again are well founded. We have had Canons and Nikons at the one company I work, but people have found it easier to shoot with th E-M1 mkII that I suggested the company get. I help instruct others what is best for what they are shooting and it is giving me more time to learn more of the finer points of the camera as well. Even here at work, things tend to be more fun without the big camera bag and still have multiple lenses to shoot with. People always like looking at the small camera. I just like using the E-M1mkII because it gets the job done at work and when I am on personal travel with my own E-M1mkII.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
azted wrote:
Realize that the 20 mp sensor is half the size of full frame, so it would have the density of a 40mp full frame sensor. My EM-5 ii is 16 mp and has the sharpest shots I have ever gotten.
Physically, it is half of full size.
Logically it is almost the size of a D750 sensor, but not nearly the size of a D850 sensor
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