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Feb 3, 2020 17:08:27   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Link to full report



https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2945/nasa-noaa-analyses-reveal-2019-second-warmest-year-on-record/


https://tinyurl.com/qqtsydj

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Feb 3, 2020 17:19:49   #
EyeSawYou
 


What was the cause of the warming in 1880 and before?

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Feb 3, 2020 20:07:37   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
1880 was when organized weather assessment started. Also temperature and pressure recording technology was primitive at best. Most seaports had posts for tracking the tides. I am sure that scientists have studied soil, rock, and ice cores from which assessments could be constructed, but I am not familiar with that literature.


EyeSawYou wrote:
What was the cause of the warming in 1880 and before?

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Feb 3, 2020 20:14:49   #
EyeSawYou
 
John_F wrote:
1880 was when organized weather assessment started. Also temperature and pressure recording technology was primitive at best. Most seaports had posts for tracking the tides. I am sure that scientists have studied soil, rock, and ice cores from which assessments could be constructed, but I am not familiar with that literature.


So it's the warmest year in recorded history since 1880. But what was the warmest period in the last 1 billion years?

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Feb 3, 2020 21:08:08   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
John_F wrote:
Link to full report


Speaking of links: Does anyone remember when climate Scientists on both sides of the ‘man made g****l w*****g’ debate sat down together and discussed data?

If you remember, please post a link on their findings and conclusions.

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Feb 3, 2020 21:36:56   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
They all ways use 1880 as the base. It's kinda phony. The measuring devices were primative compared to modern technology. And that a fair amount of the surface of the planet was unavailable, so that any measure of average temp is suspect

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Feb 3, 2020 22:17:00   #
trainspotter Loc: Oregon
 
I'm getting sleepy

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Feb 3, 2020 22:30:09   #
Angmo
 
Too bad the numbers have been modified.

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Feb 4, 2020 09:38:21   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 


140 years ago. Do you have any idea how old the earth is? BFD

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Feb 4, 2020 09:39:54   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
John_F wrote:
1880 was when organized weather assessment started. Also temperature and pressure recording technology was primitive at best. Most seaports had posts for tracking the tides. I am sure that scientists have studied soil, rock, and ice cores from which assessments could be constructed, but I am not familiar with that literature.


The scientists are in the pocket of who ever is funding them.

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Feb 4, 2020 10:09:07   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Hmmmm, 1880 you say. The Fight at the OK Corral in Tombstone was in October 1881. NOW we all know what the Earps and Clantons were fighting about, G****l W*****g.

I recall reading a newspaper article of the day stating that gunshots rang out right after Wyatt shouted, Stop the madness, V**e Trump. Liberals were a violent lot even then.

Dennis

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Feb 4, 2020 10:25:50   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Hmmmm, 1880 you say. The Fight at the OK Corral in Tombstone was in October 1881. NOW we all know what the Earps and Clantons were fighting about, G****l W*****g.

I recall reading a newspaper article of the day stating that gunshots rang out right after Wyatt shouted, Stop the madness, V**e Trump. Liberals were a violent lot even then.

Dennis


LMAO

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Feb 4, 2020 11:24:30   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
John_F wrote:
1880 was when organized weather assessment started. Also temperature and pressure recording technology was primitive at best. Most seaports had posts for tracking the tides. I am sure that scientists have studied soil, rock, and ice cores from which assessments could be constructed, but I am not familiar with that literature.


Correct, but what makes you think scientists can measure global temperature completely and accurately now and make assessments that are future reliable?

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Feb 4, 2020 11:58:19   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Correct, but what makes you think scientists can measure global temperature completely and accurately now and make assessments that are future reliable?


Thank you. Every single day weather predictors can not tell us with 100% accuracy that it will rain or not. It seems the best they can do is, 20% chance of rain, snow, something. Yet we are supposed to accept at face value that NYC will be a foot deep in water by 2012 (or wh**ever the year was). I have read there were similar predictions for back around 1933 or thereabouts.

The Liberals have put many of their eggs in 8 year old Greta Thunberg who has no scientific training or degrees but is simply repeating the claims of those who don’t know either.

I am NOT claiming G****l W*****g isn’t happening. I see it every year. But proof of Man Made warming has yet to come forth. The earth has been warming and cooling for millions of years. Now Liberals want us to pay Trillions of dollars to somebody thinking that will stop the warming. NOT!

Dennis

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Feb 4, 2020 12:07:21   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Thank you. Every single day weather predictors can not tell us with 100% accuracy that it will rain or not. It seems the best they can do is, 20% chance of rain, snow, something. Yet we are supposed to accept at face value that NYC will be a foot deep in water by 2012 (or wh**ever the year was). I have read there were similar predictions for back around 1933 or thereabouts.

The Liberals have put many of their eggs in 8 year old Greta Thunberg who has no scientific training or degrees but is simply repeating the claims of those who don’t know either.

I am NOT claiming G****l W*****g isn’t happening. I see it every year. But proof of Man Made warming has yet to come forth. The earth has been warming and cooling for millions of years. Now Liberals want us to pay Trillions of dollars to somebody thinking that will stop the warming. NOT!

Dennis
Thank you. Every single day weather predictors ca... (show quote)

Excellent post.

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