Is Lt. Col. Vindman guilty of a violation of Article 89 of the UCMJ?
Uniform Code of Military Justice?
Not that I know of. Why don't you elucidate on why you ask the question?
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Frank T wrote:
Not that I know of. Why don't you elucidate on why you ask the question?
I would say read a book, but history has taught me that you won't.
The Official Text of the Offence:
“Any person subject to this chapter who behaves with disrespect toward his superior commissioned officer shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/punitive-articles-of-the-ucmj-3356855Although I think ARTICLE 88 is more appropriate:
“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of T***sportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/punitive-articles-of-the-ucmj-3356854
Article 89, UCMJ, has been used in the past whenever an officer displays conduct which puts his superiors in a bad light. The military has a strict chain of command concept, and if you complain, it has to be to your superior officer, who then moves your complaint on up the chain of command.
When an officer goes out that chain (the same holds true for enlisted personnel), it shows that that officer has contempt for his superiors. In many instances, it's a "career k**ler". LTCOL Vindman spoke outside the command structure, and made comments which were inappropriate at any time. The LTCOL is an instrument of the President's military and foreign policy, not a maker of it himself. It's not hard to imagine that the O-6 review board will "red line" him with no promotional opportunities. Now, there are channels if the officer believes that he/she can't get a fair shake within the chain. However, LTCOL Vindman has ignored that opportunity.
LT COL, while still at his post, has probably committed military suicide, and should the President decide, he could be dismissed from active duty. Article 89 isn't the only crime. He also broke military rules when he wore a uniform to a Congressional hearing.
LTCOL Vindman is a military grade O-5. As such, he's no more than a briefcase carrier in the hierarchy in the Army. There are thousands of O-5's in DC, all vying for higher military rank. LTCOL Vindman is nothing special; he has attempted, like others to project self-importance based on his own ego.
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
pendennis wrote:
Article 89, UCMJ, has been used in the past whenever an officer displays conduct which puts his superiors in a bad light. The military has a strict chain of command concept, and if you complain, it has to be to your superior officer, who then moves your complaint on up the chain of command.
When an officer goes out that chain (the same holds true for enlisted personnel), it shows that that officer has contempt for his superiors. In many instances, it's a "career k**ler". LTCOL Vindman spoke outside the command structure, and made comments which were inappropriate at any time. The LTCOL is an instrument of the President's military and foreign policy, not a maker of it himself. It's not hard to imagine that the O-6 review board will "red line" him with no promotional opportunities. Now, there are channels if the officer believes that he/she can't get a fair shake within the chain. However, LTCOL Vindman has ignored that opportunity.
LT COL, while still at his post, has probably committed military suicide, and should the President decide, he could be dismissed from active duty. Article 89 isn't the only crime. He also broke military rules when he wore a uniform to a Congressional hearing.
LTCOL Vindman is a military grade O-5. As such, he's no more than a briefcase carrier in the hierarchy in the Army. There are thousands of O-5's in DC, all vying for higher military rank. LTCOL Vindman is nothing special; he has attempted, like others to project self-importance based on his own ego.
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Agreed, but it is towards 'commissioned officers' and not civilian military leadership.
LWW wrote:
I would say read a book, but history has taught me that you won't.
The Official Text of the Offence:
“Any person subject to this chapter who behaves with disrespect toward his superior commissioned officer shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/punitive-articles-of-the-ucmj-3356855Although I think ARTICLE 88 is more appropriate:
“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of T***sportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/punitive-articles-of-the-ucmj-3356854I would say read a book, but history has taught me... (
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Agreed. He could also be punished under Article 133, Conduct Unbecoming an Officer.
Personally, he ought to have the book thrown at him. He's an absolute weasel.
What a bunch of snowflakes you guys are.
You cant punish someone for telling the t***h.
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Frank T wrote:
What a bunch of snowflakes you guys are.
You cant punish someone for telling the t***h.
Dear lord in heaven why did you smite this child of God.
Frank T wrote:
What a bunch of snowflakes you guys are.
You cant punish someone for telling the t***h.
And you fear punishing those who lie. Mueller proved evil leftie dems lied. So please do follow up.
Angmo wrote:
And you fear punishing those who lie. Mueller proved evil leftie dems lied. So please do follow up.
Fat Donnie has lied more than 15,000 times since he was elected.
Ergo, you have no standing on that issue.
Frank T wrote:
Fat Donnie has lied more than 15,000 times since he was elected.
Ergo, you have no standing on that issue.
I laugh at the ignorance of your mind.
Angmo wrote:
I laugh at the ignorance of your mind.
You're just jealous of him because hes a real hero.and doesnt need to impersonate one.
You may laugh at me, but I pity you.
You're such a sad case.
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