What we need is a Ma Barker or a Bonnie Parker to even things out a bit.
Talk about white male rage. Leo Durocher or Billy Martin were about the best at getting on some good White Male Rage.
My grandmother use to tell me about Baseball Manager Leo Durocher. He, was a big fan of Willie Mays, a Hall of Fame now. Leo, was known to speak his mind, rough and tough, and would go into rages against Umpires, and get thrown out the game. The same for Billy Martin of the New York Yankees. Both men spoke their minds back then. I remember Billy Martin. Not Leo Durocher. Ma Barker and Bonnie Parker, of Bonnie & Clyde were gangster women. Rough and tough to the bone. And handled guns better than police officers. Both died as women gangsters. Especially Bonnie's fatal end. All these men and women were white. I don't know what SNL, Saturday Night Live has to do with the Topic?
MrMophoto
Loc: Rhode Island "The biggest little"
History is full of people that behaved badly. I don't see a reason to exalt that behavior. If you are going to revere people with bad behavior, at least focus on their positive accomplishments. Talk about what made them famous, not infamous.
mas24 wrote:
My grandmother use to tell me about Baseball Manager Leo Durocher. He, was a big fan of Willie Mays, a Hall of Fame now. Leo, was known to speak his mind, rough and tough, and would go into rages against Umpires, and get thrown out the game. The same for Billy Martin of the New York Yankees. Both men spoke their minds back then. I remember Billy Martin. Not Leo Durocher. Ma Barker and Bonnie Parker, of Bonnie & Clyde were gangster women. Rough and tough to the bone. And handled guns better than police officers. Both died as women gangsters. Especially Bonnie's fatal end. All these men and women were white. I don't know what SNL, Saturday Night Live has to do with the Topic?
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I remember Leo "The Lip".
Mark
MrMophoto wrote:
History is full of people that behaved badly. I don't see a reason to exalt that behavior. If you are going to revere people with bad behavior, at least focus on their positive accomplishments. Talk about what made them famous, not infamous.
You are correct. In these days of reality TV and admiration of bad boys/men as hero’s is at the core of the situation we are in politically today. Sadly, integrity, honesty, and character are vilified as weakness.
Stan
markngolf wrote:
I remember Leo "The Lip".
Mark
Yes, I remember you saying a while back, that you were a Yankees fan, when you were in early grade school. So, I can see why you would remember Leo Durocher. He was quite a character, my late grandmother said.
I agree, sports just ain't what they used to be. Some of the best boxing matches I watched were at hockey games. Now all they do is useless skating..!
Don't forget Lou Piniella. He ripped first base off its mounting; an act that even got the umpire smiling, before he sent Lou to the showers.
MrMophoto
Loc: Rhode Island "The biggest little"
Maybe that's where all those sports parents learned to beat up on other people during their kids games (other parents, kids, refs, etc.) I still don't know why bad behavior is considered acceptable especially in professional sports. Maybe they should just leave the word "professional" out of the title. I thought a professional sport would indicate a certain amount of decorum.
SteveR wrote:
What we need is a Ma Barker or a Bonnie Parker to even things out a bit.
Talk about white male rage. Leo Durocher or Billy Martin were about the best at getting on some good White Male Rage.
Earl Weaver was another excellent example.
MrMophoto wrote:
Maybe that's where all those sports parents learned to beat up on other people during their kids games (other parents, kids, refs, etc.) I still don't know why bad behavior is considered acceptable especially in professional sports. Maybe they should just leave the word "professional" out of the title. I thought a professional sport would indicate a certain amount of decorum.
Naw, I think Professional just means they get paid to play or be a part of the sport. How they act has pretty much NOTHING to do with being a professional in today's American society.
For those of you wondering what I'm talking about, the movies nominated for Best Movie for the Academy Award all have something to do with white male rage...think about Joker for instance. SNL picked up on this and did a spoof about it. Google it.
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