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Jan 24, 2020 19:15:23   #
trmcgrade Loc: Charlotte, VT
 
Howdy all, took this photo today in Burlington, VT. I cannot for the life of me decide if the composition is alright, so I'd love feedback on that. Of course, everything else is fair game as well. Thanks!


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Jan 24, 2020 19:24:43   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
trmcgrade wrote:
Howdy all, took this photo today in Burlington, VT. I cannot for the life of me decide if the composition is alright, so I'd love feedback on that. Of course, everything else is fair game as well. Thanks!


I would crop it into the dark water at the bottom and ax the reflection. It pulls my eye right out of the frame but doesn't add much to the shot. I'd go a little closer at the top too. I'd also play with my blacks and whites. It doesn't pop for me. Seems a little flat. I like what I think it could be though.
...Cam

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Jan 24, 2020 20:30:07   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
trmcgrade wrote:
Howdy all, took this photo today in Burlington, VT. I cannot for the life of me decide if the composition is alright, so I'd love feedback on that. Of course, everything else is fair game as well. Thanks!


The tall tree is right in the middle. So when you look at the image, you see the big tree and your eyes are like a ping pong ball going left, right,left right.To give the image one impact IMHO crop some out on the left of the image. So your eye sees the tall tree and then looks right.

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Jan 25, 2020 06:00:15   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
.....To give the image one impact IMHO crop some out on the left of the image.


That will also result in a more balanced composition since the tallest tree isn't on its own. Don't worry about cropping in closer since the surroundings don't add that much to the sense of place or the sense of space.

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Jan 25, 2020 07:17:58   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
I agree with the above.
Crop from the left putting the tallest tree well to the left. Take some sky away from the top. Take some off the bottom, so that the darkest water is at the bottom of the pic. This will retain the original format.

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Jan 25, 2020 09:08:38   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
I would trim the bottom so that there is black the same size as the white reflection and then bring in the right side much closer to the right tall tree. Tighten the story by cropping.

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Jan 25, 2020 09:19:28   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
5he two major “ lines” with which to work are the strong horizontal of the rocky shore, and the rough diadonal( top left to lower right) of the tops of the trees.
My suggestion:
Crop most of the water from 5he bottom
Crop the left side until the diagonal of the treetops reaches the top left corner.
IMO it turns into a coherently composedvand moreb8nter3sting image.

Dave

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Jan 25, 2020 10:38:21   #
trmcgrade Loc: Charlotte, VT
 
Thank you all very much for the suggestions!

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Jan 25, 2020 12:22:22   #
bertloomis Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
 
This photo is divided into thirds which harms the composition. The edge of the water is the top of the bottom third. The tree line is the boundary of the second third and the sky is the last third. Compositions of this nature are unattractive. I don't know if cropping in PP can save this one. Give it a try!

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Jan 25, 2020 13:23:50   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
My response pretty much mirrors what has already been said. Slide the image slightly to the right, leaving the smaller trees, and crop about half of the bottom black band. Agree the reflection doesn't add to the photo.

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Jan 30, 2020 15:05:20   #
Nightski
 
I think everyone here has covered the issues, so I would just add this. Most of the time a camera is set so that it's strongest focal point is dead center. I think it's why people put the subject and the horizon in the middle so much. I catch myself doing it. Focus on your subject, hold the shutter down half way while you move your camera around and consider the compositions in the frame.

One more thing. Black and white composition is so much more critical than color. I think if this was in color, you may have had a very different reaction to the reflection. The colors of the leaves and rock may have carried the reflection. It's my opinion that black & white demands an unequivocal subject.

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Jan 31, 2020 03:18:33   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Nightski wrote:
I think everyone here has covered the issues, so I would just add this. Most of the time a camera is set so that it's strongest focal point is dead center. I think it's why people put the subject and the horizon in the middle so much. I catch myself doing it. Focus on your subject, hold the shutter down half way while you move your camera around and consider the compositions in the frame.

One more thing. Black and white composition is so much more critical than color. I think if this was in color, you may have had a very different reaction to the reflection. The colors of the leaves and rock may have carried the reflection. It's my opinion that black & white demands an unequivocal subject.
I think everyone here has covered the issues, so I... (show quote)


Yes - but many Hogs are recommending and encouraging the use of BBF and / or focus lock. Personally, I agree with you, and I am sure most do. I think it takes practise to recognise the composition change that will take place when converting your three dimensional view into a two dimension picture - a good reason for chimping! In the days of film, composition was easier with a fresnel screen.
Color or BW - once the shutter has clicked is not the image unequivocal?

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Jan 31, 2020 12:24:37   #
Nightski
 
Delderby wrote:
once the shutter has clicked is not the image unequivocal?




You are so right. Once that shutter clicks, that's it .. until the next click.


I have an image somewhat like this one. It was taken in the fall when the colors were amazing. My subject was the giant pine tree among the maples and other brightly colored deciduous trees. I wondered though .. would the image have impact as a black and white? Would my subject be obvious if it wasn't the only non brightly colored tree? Maybe color carried the photo.

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Jan 31, 2020 15:23:16   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Nightski wrote:
You are so right. Once that shutter clicks, that's it .. until the next click.


I have an image somewhat like this one. It was taken in the fall when the colors were amazing. My subject was the giant pine tree among the maples and other brightly colored deciduous trees. I wondered though .. would the image have impact as a black and white? Would my subject be obvious if it wasn't the only non brightly colored tree? Maybe color carried the photo.
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I guess Fall Colors would not be Fall Colors in BW. I believe the colors of nature are a wonder to be appreciated and recorded.

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