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Jan 22, 2020 09:10:17   #
nikon123 Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
So who is right regarding the Nikon Z cameras? Earlier in the discussion, there were opposing views on this.
My feel, as opposed to belief, is thT one would leave both on to maximize the stops.

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Jan 22, 2020 09:13:16   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
To all: This is one instance where it really pays to Read The *Fine* Manual. The dual stabilization issue is a minefield of gotchas and brand-specific differences.

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Jan 22, 2020 10:26:52   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
burkphoto wrote:
To all: This is one instance where it really pays to Read The *Fine* Manual. The dual stabilization issue is a minefield of gotchas and brand-specific differences.



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Jan 22, 2020 10:38:35   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
If you read carefully, both comments about Nikon Z were the same poster. There was no conflict, as the second comment was saying there's NOT a problem with the Z in response to an earlier post.

IOW, the Z works with in-body and in-lens together.

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Jan 22, 2020 10:55:14   #
NormanTheGr8 Loc: Racine, Wisconsin
 
Thanks everyone guess I have to read the manuals another time,haven't come accross my answer (I could have missed it cause I wasn't looking for that answer) maybe I'll try Sony customer service too .

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Jan 22, 2020 12:47:26   #
Peteso Loc: Blacks Hills
 
On my Olympus E-M1 Mark II with my 12-100mm lens that has ILIS, I leave both ILIS and IBIS ON. I can't speak to other cameras and lenses, but the improvement using ILIS is far better than I imagined it could be.

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Jan 22, 2020 12:58:06   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
IDguy wrote:
Not on Nikon Zs.


...true this.

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Jan 22, 2020 13:24:27   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
NormanTheGr8 wrote:
Thanks everyone guess I have to read the manuals another time,haven't come accross my answer (I could have missed it cause I wasn't looking for that answer) maybe I'll try Sony customer service too .


If you have a smartphone or tablet, go to your camera manufacturer's website and download a PDF copy of the advanced or full features owner's manual. That way, it will be with you where ever you are.

I keep copies of reference manuals on my iMac (folder on the Desktop) and iPhone (in iBooks), and refer to them as needed. My camera came with a hard copy, but it stays in my camera closet. The PDF files are hot-linked from the table of contents and index, or searchable from the search field. It's pretty easy to find information...

Of course, I have learned to read "JEnglish" (badly translated-by/from-Japanese English) over the last half century, and that dialect has become somewhat more intelligible in that time, too.

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Jan 22, 2020 13:26:19   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Peteso wrote:
On my Olympus E-M1 Mark II with my 12-100mm lens that has ILIS, I leave both ILIS and IBIS ON. I can't speak to other cameras and lenses, but the improvement using ILIS is far better than I imagined it could be.


It can't be done with just any lens and camera, they have to communicate with each other for it to work. Only certain combinations have the capability.

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Jan 22, 2020 13:29:56   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Only some Olympus camera/lens combinations have dual IS.

I leave IBIS on with a tripod, because I'm always using a tripod with a long lens, and it's never as stable as it should be. By "long" I mean the lens moves when I'm walking behind the tripod because the ground shakes the lens.

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Jan 22, 2020 15:49:33   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
burkphoto wrote:
It depends on brand. Panasonic features Dual IS 2, which combines IBIS with ILIS. You have to be using select PANASONIC or PANASONIC LEICA lenses and PANASONIC bodies, though.

Olympus has a few lenses and bodies that work together, as well.

You can’t mix body and lens brands and use both. In that case, it might be “either or” or body only. There are proprietary computers in lens and body that talk to each other to coordinate the two systems.

IBIS works best at focal lengths under 200mm full frame equivalent. ILIS works best at longer lengths.
It depends on brand. Panasonic features Dual IS 2,... (show quote)




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Jan 22, 2020 16:09:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
nikon123 wrote:
So who is right regarding the Nikon Z cameras? Earlier in the discussion, there were opposing views on this.
My feel, as opposed to belief, is thT one would leave both on to maximize the stops.


There were no opposing views, but there is an EXCEPT.

Except when you are talking about the Z50 which has no IBIS. The 2 lenses introduced for that camera have stabilization built into them.

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Jan 22, 2020 16:10:39   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
n3eg wrote:
Only some Olympus camera/lens combinations have dual IS.

I leave IBIS on with a tripod, because I'm always using a tripod with a long lens, and it's never as stable as it should be. By "long" I mean the lens moves when I'm walking behind the tripod because the ground shakes the lens.


The Panasonic G9, GH5, G95, and several other late model Panasonic cameras have Dual IS or Dual IS 2.

Selected Panasonic lenses are compatible with Dual IS 2. More are compatible with Dual IS. They tend to be the pro-grade G X-Vario and Panasonic Leica lenses, and version II lenses released since the G9. With the latest camera AND LENS firmwares installed, as much as 6.5 stops of shake reduction is possible.

https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/connect/dual_is.html

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Jan 22, 2020 17:30:50   #
Beenthere
 
nicksr1125 wrote:
Interesting question. I think I would test both IBIS & ILIS separately to see which gave the best results. Using both could be counterproductive & possibly cancel each other out.


However, both Olympus and Panasonic advise to use both as they are compatible and will work together to increase the stabilization factor.

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Jan 22, 2020 18:47:45   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Best answer will come from your camera manufacturer.

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