timbuktutraveler

Hello,

I have a Sony RX100 VII (M7). A few weeks ago I shot photos at an art exhibit.

A few days ago a I shot photos at another exhibit ( current photos)

When I reviewed the current photos instead of these photos being positioned
AFTER the first ones on the memory card, they are interspersed among the
the photos I shot at the first exhibit. Sometimes there is one photo and sometimes there are
several current photos in a row interspersed among the first exhibit's photos.

I wondered how this could happen and what can I do to avoid this in the future?

Any constructive comments would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Larry

repleo Loc: Boston

Did you delete files from the card after the first exhibit?
Are you viewing the files on the camera or on a computer? If viewing on a computer your program may be sorting them by file size instead of by date/time.

timbuktutraveler

HI,

Thank you for your prompt response.

I did not delete the card file from the camera.

I did however put the first photo file on the computer but it was still also on the memory card

when I shot the current photos.

Based on that information do you have any thoughts?

Thanks,
Larry

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

That is exactly what happens for me under those circumstances, and only those circumstances. I just work around it. Someone may have a solution.

Mike

a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel

I am going to try to expand a bit on something that was already said.
1. is the sequence to which you refer observed when reviewing on the camera, the computer or both?
2. is it Windows, Mac, Linux or what?
3. can you describe the steps you took to copy from the card to the computer if that is how the issue is seen.
4. to repeat the earlier question, did you delete any pics during the first or the second session?.
5. my 2 SONYs allow the user to choose a few different ways to number the files. How is yours set?

But first, all the OS's that I know of use file managers that sort the files in order to display a list of them or their thumbnails. All of them can sort according to various properties of the file including date created, date modified, size, name, even subject matter using AI (an advanced feature that I have no experience using). So do be sure to check how the files are being sorted. If you still are seeing the "intersperce" then the answers to the questions above may help.

btw, I am assuming in my comments that you are using the OS's file manager. But if you are using some program designed for photo viewing specifically, even if it is built into the OS then that program may be causing the confusion.

repleo Loc: Boston

I looked up the user manual. The RX100 has an option for creating folders that you may have done without realizing, but I can't figure how that might create the problem you mentioned. My only other suggestions would be to check to see if there is a Firmware update for your camera. If not, maybe try a factory reset.
Another thought. Save the existing pictures to another media and re-format the card in the camera.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

And the pictures that are out of order probably have their numbers out of order, too, right? Usually, the camera keeps the pictures in their numbered order.

This has never happened to me, but strange things happen in the digital world.

Low Budget Dave

Remember that if you take a bunch of pictures, and then go back and delete the ones you don't want, Sony "frees up" that photo number to be re-used.

So if you take pictures number 0001 through 0899 and then go back and delete 0008 in camera, the camera will name the next picture 0008.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

You can email Sony directly and get the answers you are seeking.
https://us.esupport.sony.com/support/s/contact-email?language=en_US

Wanderer2 Loc: Colorado Rocky Mountains

I think, but am not certain, that the solution to your problem is in the Settings menu, page 5. At least for my RX100 VI at the bottom of that page is a setting "file number" and it will say "series" or "reset." Highlight that choice and click on it and you will be given the option to select either series or reset. With series the camera is supposed to number the files sequentially by number and to resume numbering where it left off, even if you put a different memory card in the camera. And it does do that with my VI. Possibly the VII doesn't do this as the VI does but otherwise if it doesn't work that way there must be something wrong. You may also select how you want files named in the settings menu. There are also options for folder management in the settings menu, what to name them, creating a new folder, etc.

I just recently bought my VI and have found it to be an amazingly complicated little camera and, especially since I am not accustomed to the Sony menu system, have had quite a number of similar difficulties, although not this one since mine came set to "series." I quickly realized I needed more help than what Sony provided and purchased Alexander White's Guide for the camera and it has been a great help. It's available from Amazon and has been well worth it for me. The info I provided above is from this Guide.

Hope this is of some help.

Doc Barry Loc: Huntsville, Alabama USA

You are correct, but for the VII, it is the first item on page 6 of Settings. I always keep mine set on Series so that image locations don't get jumbled.

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

I don't think incorrect sequential numbering of the files is the issue.

Here is what I think happened:

- He took the card out of the camera and put it into a reader.

- He viewed the photos with some program, copying (not moving) some of the files to his computer.

- He put the card back in the camera and went out and shot some more.

- When he went to look at the images after that shoot, he noticed that the new files were intermixed more or less arbitrary with the images from the previous shoot - regardless of the the numbers.

If that is what happened, then I am familiar with it because it also happens to me under the sane circumstances. It has something to do with the interaction between whatever program is displaying the thumbnails and the card.

Once Larry gets back from timbuktu we can ask him.


Mike

timbuktutraveler

HI Mike ,

Yes, thanks for all your input and the time you have taken to address my problem.

Yes, you are correct. I did take the card out of the camera, put it into the computer,

loaded some photos there and then put rhe card back in the camera.

So I guess the question is: what should I do next to prevent this problem in the future?

Wanderer2 suggests that I should make sure that page 6 has "series".

What do you suggest.

THanks again,
Larry

timbuktutraveler

Many thanks for your thoughtful and timely reply.
Yes I do have Alexander White's great book and will check out your suggestion.

Regards,
Larry

Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan

I can't see any solution other than transferring the files off of the card. Once they are on a hard drive they will sort again. I don't think it means that anything is wrong, rather that we are asking the camera and the card to do something they can't do.

Mike