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Canon EOS R exposure index, I got a quick question on how to use it.
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Jan 19, 2020 19:46:17   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
On my 5D iv, the exposure index (may not be calling it the right name but referring to the meter at the bottom of the viewfinder that has a center Mark then -1,2,3 or plus 1,2,3) would move up and down till you had a good exposure but on my R the thing never moves no matter how light or dark the exposure will be and I’m not sure if it’s not supposed to because it’s a mirrorless and making adjustments you can see the change or what but I wish it acted like my 5D.

By the way, this could be the dumbest question ever ask on here. Sorry if it is but this is my first mirrorless system. And I know I need to read the manual, I’m on about page 150 of well over 600 pages. It will take some time.

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Jan 19, 2020 19:56:39   #
bleirer
 
It might be what mode you are in. I know on my RP it works the usual way in M but not in F(v), etc. or any of the modes where the camera controls part of the exposure for you, such as A(v), T(v). Something will flash if a value you have set is out of bounds too high or too low.

Not being coy, depending on your situation, 'you don't need no stinkin exposure indicator'. The viewfinder with exposure simulation and the histogram are all that you need.

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Jan 19, 2020 19:57:46   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
If I'm understanding correctly, yes you should see it move when you are changing your exposure. If you have the user manual in pdf form, do a word search (ctrl-F opens the box to type your word/s) for exposure level indicator. Read those entries; maybe you'll find something to double-check on the camera.

EDIT - and what bleirer said

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Jan 19, 2020 20:14:05   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
bleirer wrote:
It might be what mode you are in. I know on my RP it works the usual way in M but not in F(v), etc. Or any of the modes where the camera controls part of the exposure for you. Something will flash if a value you have set is out of bounds too high or too low.

Not being coy, depending on your situation, 'you don't need no stinkin exposure indicator'. The viewfinder with exposure simulation and the histogram are all that you need.


Well it’s funny you mention FV as that’s what I was in. I will try some different modes in the morning. Thanks so much. I was really used to the 5D and now I feel like I don’t know anything.

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Jan 19, 2020 20:14:56   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
If I'm understanding correctly, yes you should see it move when you are changing your exposure. If you have the user manual in pdf form, do a word search (ctrl-F opens the box to type your word/s) for exposure level indicator. Read those entries; maybe you'll find something to double-check on the camera.

EDIT - and what bleirer said


Thanks Linda, I will look for that.

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Jan 19, 2020 20:28:12   #
bleirer
 
Resqu2 wrote:
Well it’s funny you mention FV as that’s what I was in. I will try some different modes in the morning. Thanks so much. I was really used to the 5D and now I feel like I don’t know anything.


The flexible mode F(v) is my go to any more. You get shutter, ISO, aperture, and EC all at once. Any can be auto, any can be manual, except EC .

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Jan 19, 2020 20:38:28   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
bleirer wrote:
The flexible mode F(v) is my go to any more. You get shutter, ISO, aperture, and EC all at once. Any can be auto, any can be manual, except EC .


This is were I’m at to, I put shutter speed on my lens ring just to experiment with it. I like to shoot 5k races and though it might be handy on the ring. That’s to be determined.

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Jan 19, 2020 20:51:44   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Resqu2 wrote:
On my 5D iv, the exposure index (may not be calling it the right name but referring to the meter at the bottom of the viewfinder that has a center Mark then -1,2,3 or plus 1,2,3) would move up and down till you had a good exposure but on my R the thing never moves no matter how light or dark the exposure will be and I’m not sure if it’s not supposed to because it’s a mirrorless and making adjustments you can see the change or what but I wish it acted like my 5D.

By the way, this could be the dumbest question ever ask on here. Sorry if it is but this is my first mirrorless system. And I know I need to read the manual, I’m on about page 150 of well over 600 pages. It will take some time.
On my 5D iv, the exposure index (may not be callin... (show quote)


If you are shooting in Manual you will see it move. It will also move if you change your Exposure Compensation in Av and Tv, but it will stay constant once moved. Don't know about Fv. I've never used it. If you are shooting in any mode where the camera can control exposure, aperture or ISO, or any combination of them, then you will not see it move because the camera is keeping the exposure constant at whatever point on the line that you have chosen, unless you exceed the exposure compensation abilities of the camera. The 5DIV behaves in the same manner. What mode were you using with the 5DIV?

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Jan 19, 2020 20:58:34   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
LFingar wrote:
If you are shooting in Manual you will see it move. It will also move if you change your Exposure Compensation in Av and Tv, but it will stay constant once moved. Don't know about Fv. I've never used it. If you are shooting in any mode where the camera can control exposure, aperture or ISO, or any combination of them, then you will not see it move because the camera is keeping the exposure constant at whatever point on the line that you have chosen, unless you exceed the exposure compensation abilities of the camera. The 5DIV behaves in the same manner. What mode were you using with the 5DIV?
If you are shooting in Manual you will see it move... (show quote)


On my 5D I used all the modes except full manual for about everything. I’m thinking it’s the new FV mode. I will get it back out in the morning. I’m off work and plan to read more of the manual and shoot some. That’s much for your post.

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Jan 19, 2020 21:17:56   #
bleirer
 
Resqu2 wrote:
This is were I’m at to, I put shutter speed on my lens ring just to experiment with it. I like to shoot 5k races and though it might be handy on the ring. That’s to be determined.


In manual mode, you can have ISO in the ring and then everything is at your fingertips.

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Jan 20, 2020 05:22:32   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Resqu2 wrote:
On my 5D iv, the exposure index (may not be calling it the right name but referring to the meter at the bottom of the viewfinder that has a center Mark then -1,2,3 or plus 1,2,3) would move up and down till you had a good exposure but on my R the thing never moves no matter how light or dark the exposure will be and I’m not sure if it’s not supposed to because it’s a mirrorless and making adjustments you can see the change or what but I wish it acted like my 5D.

By the way, this could be the dumbest question ever ask on here. Sorry if it is but this is my first mirrorless system. And I know I need to read the manual, I’m on about page 150 of well over 600 pages. It will take some time.
On my 5D iv, the exposure index (may not be callin... (show quote)


Mirrorless has nothing to do with this.

Do you have AutoISO enabled?

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Jan 20, 2020 06:19:39   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
Gene51 wrote:
Mirrorless has nothing to do with this.

Do you have AutoISO enabled?

Yes, I never shoot in anything but Auto iOS.

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Jan 20, 2020 08:04:22   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Resqu2 wrote:
Yes, I never shoot in anything but Auto iOS.


Put your camera in Manual mode with the ISO set at a specific value, such as 100, 200, etc. You will see the mark move along the bar then.

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Jan 20, 2020 08:18:17   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
LFingar wrote:
Put your camera in Manual mode with the ISO set at a specific value, such as 100, 200, etc. You will see the mark move along the bar then.


Your right! It works in P & M but not TV, AV or FV. I set my ISO to 100 all all these modes in a room with just a lamp on. I can take a photo so underexposed that you can’t see nothing but in the last 3 modes the bar stays in the center showing a good exposure. It was not like this on my 5D. Wonder if I have a setting off or the bar just doesn’t work in these 3 modes?

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Jan 20, 2020 09:05:22   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
On my EOS R looking thru the view finder mine does not move either. However if you adjust your exposure comp. setting on the back you will see it has moved. What you see is the status of all settings that are currently set on the camera at bottom of view finder. I find this is useful to check final camera settings before shooting. No mistakes! 😀

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