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Jan 16, 2020 12:15:36   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
Not quite, but of interest to me. Yesterday I did a clean, new food and count. There are six I see and probably some I don't.
These are, along with walking sticks, the most appropriately dressed insects in a bug's world.
The leaf mimics.
Third instar for some. They now are showing color.
Pictures show better than words.
So,
I cannot get them entirely in focus with this, a 40mm lens and 36mm tubes. They have the tail curled in the manner of a scorpion.
They even strike with it. Scorpion mimic?? Reversed 28mm worse, I have found cheap lensless converters are simply tubes. I shoot two AE1P and T2I Canon. Mix and match possibilities seem endless. I am in the process of recording what lens or combo does what.
I shoot a metric ruler for comparison, we've been there recently, so enough.
Combined with the M-42 fitting systems the possibilities increase.
The curled tail makes for a hard (for me) focusing situation. Need to reread some past posts on this.
Any way, I tried to show, in two pictures, the entire length.
I believe I have two species or 3 males and three females. Either way may get second generation eggs. These can be parthenogenic.
And now, lunch.
Good afternoon, all.
Bill


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Jan 16, 2020 12:20:14   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Wow, simply adorable and I can see how they got the name, "Leaf Mimic". Nature is truly amazing with her means of evolution for survival techniques. Bill, you are doing a great job and keep the updates coming for I enjoy seeing and reading them.

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Jan 16, 2020 13:20:40   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Wow, simply adorable and I can see how they got the name, "Leaf Mimic". Nature is truly amazing with her means of evolution for survival techniques. Bill, you are doing a great job and keep the updates coming for I enjoy seeing and reading them.


Thank you.
Before this stage they were very active. Even working on a large sheet of white paper they were difficult when cleaning. Fixed that. As they ran toward the edge I plopped a clear condiment container over them. They climb to top and hang quietly. Now they seem to feed at night and hang quietly in the day.
You can see why rose is a preferred food. Even colors and patterns are very close. I hope for adults, then the wings, with veins, complete the picture. Then the sun mottling the leaves, I envision some nice shots, more practice.
Practice makes competant.
Bill

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Jan 16, 2020 13:25:18   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
Very interesting. I have never seen how these grow up, but now you are teaching me.

For extra depth of focus: I peeked at your EXIF (I beg your pardon) and it looked like you were shooting wide open. That is the problem there. You would need to shoot with 'more aperture'. I would favor something smaller than f/11 for these things. Maybe f/14 or so. External light, flash (including on-camera pop-up. I think your camera has it), and ISO. Your shutter was 1/200. I think you can do 1/100 sec exposure with your focal length, hand held. I shoot full manual so the camera gives me no guff -- it takes the picture. The more automatic settings sometimes refuse to fire if the light is wrong. I hate that!

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Jan 16, 2020 14:06:48   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
Very interesting. I have never seen how these grow up, but now you are teaching me.

For extra depth of focus: I peeked at your EXIF (I beg your pardon) and it looked like you were shooting wide open. That is the problem there. You would need to shoot with 'more aperture'. I would favor something smaller than f/11 for these things. Maybe f/14 or so. External light, flash (including on-camera pop-up. I think your camera has it), and ISO. Your shutter was 1/200. I think you can do 1/100 sec exposure with your focal length, hand held. I shoot full manual so the camera gives me no guff -- it takes the picture. The more automatic settings sometimes refuse to fire if the light is wrong. I hate that!
Very interesting. I have never seen how these grow... (show quote)


At this stage in my life I have had enough health issues to have NO qualms about where one is peeking. Not much modesty, either.
Seriously, am going to try your suggestions after I have digested what you said and my lunch.
Have started to take notes. My memory is not as sharp. Now, where did I put my notes?
Thank you.
Bill

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Jan 17, 2020 00:02:02   #
Pysanka Artist Loc: Rochester, NY
 
newtoyou wrote:
Not quite, but of interest to me. Yesterday I did a clean, new food and count. There are six I see and probably some I don't.
These are, along with walking sticks, the most appropriately dressed insects in a bug's world.
The leaf mimics.
Third instar for some. They now are showing color.
Pictures show better than words.
So,
I cannot get them entirely in focus with this, a 40mm lens and 36mm tubes. They have the tail curled in the manner of a scorpion.
They even strike with it. Scorpion mimic?? Reversed 28mm worse, I have found cheap lensless converters are simply tubes. I shoot two AE1P and T2I Canon. Mix and match possibilities seem endless. I am in the process of recording what lens or combo does what.
I shoot a metric ruler for comparison, we've been there recently, so enough.
Combined with the M-42 fitting systems the possibilities increase.
The curled tail makes for a hard (for me) focusing situation. Need to reread some past posts on this.
Any way, I tried to show, in two pictures, the entire length.
I believe I have two species or 3 males and three females. Either way may get second generation eggs. These can be parthenogenic.
And now, lunch.
Good afternoon, all.
Bill
Not quite, but of interest to me. Yesterday I did ... (show quote)


Oh this is so exciting!!! Post photos as they grow!!

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Jan 17, 2020 00:16:12   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
Pysanka Artist wrote:
Oh this is so exciting!!! Post photos as they grow!!


My intent.
Bill

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Jan 17, 2020 00:45:54   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Very interesting. They really do look like rose leaves.

Mike

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