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Jan 16, 2020 15:36:30   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
nadelewitz wrote:
You have multiple zooms which include the 85mm length. Why buy a single-length lens? ..


2+ stops faster and sharper is the answer.

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Jan 16, 2020 17:13:34   #
kashka51
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
tldr; Portraits, indoor sports, shallow DOF and sharp handheld available light at mid range distance

I recently purchased the EF 85 1.4 IS for my 5DS. I primarily purchased it for portraits and other situations where I want a shallower depth of field.

I saved my pennies and sold off some gear I wasn't using because I really wanted IS. Unless you really want an ultra-shallow DOF at shorter range, IS, or really need that extra 1/2 stop the 1.8 is probably just as good for far less $.

Upon recently reading a UHH thread on indoor sports, I may try it out for that application as well to get a higher shutter speed with available light when a short telephoto is useful.

I discovered I especially like it on my Rp. The DOF preview with the electronic viewfinder is at full brightness and really lets me dial in DOF perfectly every time.

I'm glad I bought it - it does what I expected but there was a bit of a learning curve as it was my first 85mm lens.
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Thanks for your reply

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Jan 16, 2020 17:14:43   #
kashka51
 
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
Great...then just make sure it's a FF lens and not an ASPC lens.....I don't know which it actually is and that could be a game-changer if it's a Cropper and thanks for your reply.


I will!

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Jan 16, 2020 22:15:44   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
kashka51 wrote:
I have a Canon 5DS R and I am looking at the Canon 85mm F 1.8 USM for my telephoto Prime Lens. I have a Canon 24-105 1:3.5-5.6 IS STM and a Canon 100-400 1:4.5-5.6 L IS II USM a Canon 70-200 1:2.8 L IS II usm plus a Tamron first Generation 150-600 mm. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I don't have a lot to spend. I do own a Canon 80D and a Canon &D Mark II also. Thanks!!!


It's a great portrait lens and a sharp all around lens. You already have that focal range covered with your 24-105 and your 70-200, not sure if you really need it but it you have kids or grand kids you may find some use for it.

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Jan 16, 2020 22:37:00   #
kashka51
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
It's a great portrait lens and a sharp all around lens. You already have that focal range covered with your 24-105 and your 70-200, not sure if you really need it but it you have kids or grand kids you may find some use for it.


Oh I will find uses for it.

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Jan 16, 2020 22:39:54   #
Haydon
 
I shoot regularly in the studio with a Canon 85 1.8. The majority of the shots are shot at F8 under studio lights. It's my preferred lens because of weight and its a good balance of creating a repore with the person sitting. The sweet spot for the 85 1.8 for shallow depth of field is at F2.2. The 24-105L would be better suited as an all around lens but in outdoor environments I prefer to shoot portrait at 2.8 or less. Thats when I enjoy the lightweight of primes and their very strong ability to blur any outdoor distractions during portraiture work.

If you have the room for outdoor work, I still say Canon's 135 F2 is a hidden gem. Sharp wide open and gives MTF charts a run for the money despite being an old design.

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Jan 16, 2020 22:42:11   #
kashka51
 
Haydon wrote:
I shoot regularly in the studio with a Canon 85 1.8. The majority of the shots are shot at F8 under studio lights. It's my preferred lens because of weight and its a good balance of creating a repore with the person sitting. The sweet spot for the 85 1.8 for shallow depth of field is at F2.2. The 24-105L would be better suited as an all around lens but in outdoor environments I prefer to shoot portrait at 2.8 or less. Thats when I enjoy the lightweight of primes and their very strong ability to blur any outdoor distractions during portraiture work.
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Good point!

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Jan 16, 2020 23:18:32   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Haydon wrote:
...If you have the room for outdoor work, I still say Canon's 135 F2 is a hidden gem. Sharp wide open and gives MTF charts a run for the money despite being an old design.


πŸ‘πŸ‘ completely agree - the 135 f2L is one great lens! Even with a Canon EF 1.4x MKII or MKIII extender yielding ~190mm @ f2.8, it’s sharper than my 70-200 f2.8L at 200mm.

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Jan 16, 2020 23:27:03   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
kashka51 wrote:
I need something to stay on my 5DS R My other lenses are already occupied on my 80D and 7D II Thanks for your reply


The lens that's usually on my 5DSr is my EF 28-300 when it's not on my 5D mk IV.

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Jan 17, 2020 13:57:27   #
no12mo
 
kashka51 wrote:
I have a Canon 5DS R and I am looking at the Canon 85mm F 1.8 USM for my telephoto Prime Lens. I have a Canon 24-105 1:3.5-5.6 IS STM and a Canon 100-400 1:4.5-5.6 L IS II USM a Canon 70-200 1:2.8 L IS II usm plus a Tamron first Generation 150-600 mm. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I don't have a lot to spend. I do own a Canon 80D and a Canon &D Mark II also. Thanks!!!


Unless you want to greatly improve your bokah performance. One of your zooms would probably do. Take your camera to a photo shop along with one of your current zooms that would cover the 85mm FL and do some wide open shots (available lighting) with preferrable pinpoint highlights in the background and compare the zoom with the proposed 85mm prime you're interested in. If the results are just a blurred background w/o round spots or donuts than it would make sense to me. If the bokah is very close to your zoom, I see no point.

You can always make up for low level lighting by upping the ISO with a ZOOM but there is nothing like a nice, clean blurred background in some cases. At that point, the 85mm prime might make a lot of sense to me

Good luck, Alan

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Jan 17, 2020 14:06:17   #
kashka51
 
no12mo wrote:
Unless you want to greatly improve your bokah performance. One of your zooms would probably do. Take your camera to a photo shop along with one of your current zooms that would cover the 85mm FL and do some wide open shots (available lighting) with preferrable pinpoint highlights in the background and compare the zoom with the proposed 85mm prime you're interested in. If the results are just a blurred background w/o round spots or donuts than it would make sense to me. If the bokah is very close to your zoom, I see no point.

You can always make up for low level lighting by upping the ISO with a ZOOM but there is nothing like a nice, clean blurred background in some cases. At that point, the 85mm prime might make a lot of sense to me

Good luck, Alan
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Thanks for the info!

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Jan 17, 2020 23:40:23   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Haydon wrote:
I shoot regularly in the studio with a Canon 85 1.8. The majority of the shots are shot at F8 under studio lights. It's my preferred lens because of weight and its a good balance of creating a repore with the person sitting. The sweet spot for the 85 1.8 for shallow depth of field is at F2.2. The 24-105L would be better suited as an all around lens but in outdoor environments I prefer to shoot portrait at 2.8 or less. Thats when I enjoy the lightweight of primes and their very strong ability to blur any outdoor distractions during portraiture work.

If you have the room for outdoor work, I still say Canon's 135 F2 is a hidden gem. Sharp wide open and gives MTF charts a run for the money despite being an old design.
I shoot regularly in the studio with a Canon 85 1.... (show quote)


I am sure that the Canon 135 f/2 is a fine lens but it would be a shame to pass on the Sigma 135 Art, a bit bulky but it shines brighter than the older Canon lens.

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Jan 18, 2020 00:35:00   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I am sure that the Canon 135 f/2 is a fine lens but it would be a shame to pass on the Sigma 135 Art, a bit bulky but it shines brighter than the older Canon lens.


The 135L is probably my 2nd favorite lens ever. I've never found a situation nor subject where pointing this lens at it fails to deliver a remarkable image. So, with great skepticism did I go looking for comparisons. Turns out, when you page down to section 'Alternatives to the Sigma 135mm f/1.8 DG HSM Art Lens', it turns out Bryan Carnathan has a lot of positive comparisons for the Sigma at https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sigma-135mm-f-1.8-DG-HSM-Art-Lens.aspx .

I expect the price will the jaw dropping, but Canon's pending RF 135 f/1.4L is going to push the Sigma back to the silver finisher ....

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