Paladin48 Loc: Orlando

NOT a girl ... but Thank You for playing !!!

smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL

It looks to me like a "are you worthy" of me expression. Could be Switch Dominant also.
Either way I like the image. Everything works and the cross shadows work very well.

Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

dat2ra Loc: Sacramento

Right. That's my fault. Should have read "Dominant".

dat2ra Loc: Sacramento

Thanks, smf. Yup, that is exactly her status. Again, this was not intended to be a "sweet", "cute", "friendly", "pleasant-looking" type of shot.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

This is a transgender person as you are stating. The image is not coming across as a portrait of a 'girl' nor that of a submissive. The body language is that of a masculine/male persona. Bent forward with hands on the upper legs speaks to a male dressed in female attire. It is the uniform or stereotypical presentation of cross dressing when the individual is in performance as a cross dresser and not a transgendered person projecting to be a female human.

Women typically do certain gestures that are essentially that of women in modern social structure. These gestures come to them by way of a learned response by media views, socialization with other women and other sources.

Let me illustrate these concepts with three standing visuals that perhaps will help. First Shadyn. A totally female outward persona but essentially Shadyn was a male persona in a female body. See that the feet are apart and are resting or pointed outward, this was typical of her body projection, it is a masculine pose, while squeezing the girls togeather, head rolled to one side is decidedly feminine as are the gestures of the hands.

In the next image of Kat, a total girl who is a switch (comfortable both as male or female roll play), we get the toes pointed inward, and note the hand resting on the area of the hip bone while the gesture around the genitals is covered but engaged. When women touch themselves on the body they generally caress or as some say, "they touch themselves as the would touch a baby, no excess of finger tip contact".

Finally, Jenny KNOX, a girly girl through and through, little masculine representation in this woman.

Shadyn.

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Kat.

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Jenny KNOX.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Thanks Timmers that was a very nice explanation and the examples illustrate the points made. After all a pic is worth 1000 words. ;)

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

So happy that the post was taken well and did not appear as my 'abducting' the thread, which I don't feel I did. All and all the image does send a clear message, just not that associated with the words posted with the image.

Stephan G

Mannerism vs structure. Of the two, the latter is harder to manipulate. And the latter will win out in any contest. In the meantime, we all work with visualization.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

Contest?

Ah, Formalism, eidos, AKA Clement Greenberg.

But even for all that was said and written, Clement could not get around the fact that the work of the abstract expressionist Jackson Pollock's work was 'decided' by the act of another artist, Marcel Duchamp pointing at the action paintings of Pollock, and said 'its art'. Critics can inform modern art with opinions no matter how nuanced and brilliant, yet it is the consensus by another artist(s) that the work is art, at least when it comes to the subject of modern art.

And, with regards to this, "we all work with visualization" I would agree only with the modifier that 'some' but most not a lot.

toxdoc42

you are teaching me something I didn't know. is it anger?

Stephan G

Pity.

Well, word manipulation is a form of "visualization". My statement is simple and demonstrable. It is from comparative anatomy study.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

As we are discussing art and not comparative anatomy, the use of a photo/art word in the context of the discussion it does not fit, unless you take a moment in your post to clarify that your reference is to medicine/anatomy.

Stephan G

You will not comprehend any further. Enough.

dat2ra Loc: Sacramento

Stephan. Right you are and good eye. As I noted, I erred that she is "submissive": she is a switch Domina, hence her aggressive stance (and riding crop). Smiling in that pose would, to me at least, seem bizarre, even creepy. And yes, she's not into S&M, but very much D&S.