Let's Just Drop It. I apologize.
Jan 14, 2020 14:01:13 #
I really just wanted to know the reason for choosing FF over Crop. And then it dawned on me, that if in both cases one post processes what difference does it truly make. Sorry for the dander. It's just my opinion that post processing is like, "Getting the answers to a test after the test has been taken then given the opportunity to change your answers and receive an "A". Personal Opinion that's all. And you know what they say about personal opinions..."Their like behinds, everybody has one." Please except my apology, I meant no harm.
Jan 14, 2020 14:21:11 #
Whether you get the best possible picture SOOC (next to impossible) or get the best possible picture after post, makes no difference if your objective is the best possible picture.
If your objective is to measure your picture taking skills rather than getting the most pleasing final product, then PP is meaningless.
Testing is meaningless unless you're in some sort of class or competition.
If your objective is to measure your picture taking skills rather than getting the most pleasing final product, then PP is meaningless.
Testing is meaningless unless you're in some sort of class or competition.
Jan 14, 2020 14:31:48 #
I shoot a crop sensor D500. I am not intimidated by full frame whatsoever. I just simply don't give a damn by what ff shooters say.
Jan 14, 2020 14:38:07 #
Bob Mevis wrote:
I shoot a crop sensor D500. I am not intimidated by full frame whatsoever. I just simply don't give a damn by what ff shooters say.
Agreed.
There is so much more to making an great image than sensor size.
It’s only one of the tools at a photographer’s disposal.
That D500 is an amazing camera, btw.
Jan 14, 2020 14:38:17 #
LITTLEBIT wrote:
I really just wanted to know the reason for choosi... (show quote)
I'm not sure what previous post this refers to. But I agree with you about 80% on post processing. If I bring home a less than great photo I much prefer to go back out and try again. Sitting in front of a computer trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear is not my idea of photography. And, of course, that's JMHO. No apology needed that I can see.
Jan 14, 2020 15:30:00 #
Retired CPO wrote:
I'm not sure what previous post this refers to. But I agree with you about 80% on post processing. If I bring home a less than great photo I much prefer to go back out and try again. Sitting in front of a computer trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear is not my idea of photography. And, of course, that's JMHO. No apology needed that I can see.
That's a very limited view of post processing. The best use of PP is not to fix a photo that could have been better out of the camera. It's to take a photo which is as good as it possibly could be out of the camera, and then improve it in ways which can't be done in the camera.
Jan 14, 2020 15:30:20 #
Retired CPO wrote:
I'm not sure what previous post this refers to. But I agree with you about 80% on post processing. If I bring home a less than great photo I much prefer to go back out and try again. Sitting in front of a computer trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear is not my idea of photography. And, of course, that's JMHO. No apology needed that I can see.
Very true statement, but I believe the OP's original thread gave the general feeling of condemning all post processing and calling out whoever. (repeat) Gave the general feeling. (/repeat)
Me personally, I was just along for the ride since it's a little slow at work and I needed the entertainment.
Jan 14, 2020 15:49:51 #
BigDaddy wrote:
Whether you get the best possible picture SOOC (next to impossible) or get the best possible picture after post, makes no difference if your objective is the best possible picture.
If your objective is to measure your picture taking skills rather than getting the most pleasing final product, then PP is meaningless.
Testing is meaningless unless you're in some sort of class or competition.
If your objective is to measure your picture taking skills rather than getting the most pleasing final product, then PP is meaningless.
Testing is meaningless unless you're in some sort of class or competition.
I want to become the best Photographer I can be without correcting my photos Post Production wise.
Jan 14, 2020 15:56:19 #
LITTLEBIT wrote:
I want to become the best Photographer I can be without correcting my photos Post Production wise.
I'll bite. You know that is what your camera is doing for you right? It's post processing the file based on settings you decide in the camera. So really, you are basically just letting the computer post-process, whereas others choose to do it themselves. Nothing wrong with either way, just personal preference.
Jan 14, 2020 16:09:44 #
LITTLEBIT wrote:
It appears that you formed an opinion based on little to no understanding, experience or education in the subject. And that you have no interest in becoming educated about how modern cameras work, and the purpose of post-processing. It's OK, you're not alone, but you are wrong 😇I want to become the best Photographer I can be without correcting my photos Post Production wise.
Jan 14, 2020 16:10:47 #
johngault007 wrote:
Very true statement, but I believe the OP's original thread gave the general feeling of condemning all post processing and calling out whoever. (repeat) Gave the general feeling. (/repeat)
Me personally, I was just along for the ride since it's a little slow at work and I needed the entertainment.
Me personally, I was just along for the ride since it's a little slow at work and I needed the entertainment.
Jan 14, 2020 16:25:49 #
johngault007 wrote:
I'll bite. You know that is what your camera is doing for you right? It's post processing the file based on settings you decide in the camera. So really, you are basically just letting the computer post-process, whereas others choose to do it themselves. Nothing wrong with either way, just personal preference.
As long as you realize that there are things that can done with post processing after the photo is taken that can't be done with only the camera settings.
Jan 14, 2020 16:27:50 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
As long as you realize that there are things that can done with post processing after the photo is taken that can't be done with only the camera settings.
Yes, and there are a million other nuances that I forgot to mention. It was a basic statement to help someone understand that by choosing to accept camera settings for output, there is still post-processing involved. Or just skim over the posts in the thread and reply to my generic statement.
Jan 14, 2020 16:28:04 #
LITTLEBIT wrote:
I want to become the best Photographer I can be without correcting my photos Post Production wise.
Do you adjust the WB setting to the specifics of the situation? Do you adjust the sharpening and contrast settings in the camera? Do you use off-center AF points set specifically on the subject of your image? Do you use BBF and / or the Continuous Servo AF setting so the camera is always working to focus on the subject? Do you shoot only at the camera's base ISO? Have you researched the sharpest apertures for each of your lenses? Do you use a tripod whenever possible? All these techniques will improve your straight out of camera JPEG results.
Jan 14, 2020 16:29:13 #
LITTLEBIT wrote:
I want to become the best Photographer I can be without correcting my photos Post Production wise.
Many did back in the film days. Many of the journalist type photographers shot slide film and didn't do any PP. Yet many shot negative film especially in B&W and did at least half of their art in the darkroom. I don't know for sure but I think the pros that cover sporting events don't do PP.
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