Intense Frustration!!
Jan 15, 2020 20:01:55 #
aellman wrote:
Rather than enduring frustration, why don't you just choose the media and working style that suits you best? If that means film and darkroom, go for it. If it means shooting and storing photos in your phone do that. Experiment with different combinations until you find the one that matches your preferences. >Alan
"why don't you just choose the media and working style that suits you best?"
That's not going to work. Before I "go for it", I need to try out some different media.
I need about $10K to try out some full frame gear. Maybe a D4 and lenses. Maybe twice that for proper wildlife shooting. Then I need a new house with space for the darkroom (like I built in the 1976!) Of course there is the "i" world with iPhone, iPod, iPad and iMac, but a Mac Pro would be better for dabbling in the iPhone 4K video.
With the full frame shooting gear I could try 60" wide media with a $10K Epson SureColor 20000 set outside the new darkroom.
Will you loan me some money?
Jan 15, 2020 22:55:41 #
bsprague wrote:
I'm a traditional photographer that has habits. I... (show quote)
Ha! I understand your frustration!
Q: Am I too old to change? Too old to learn a new workflow?
A: No you are not to old to learn and change. The evidence of this is that you tried a new process.
Q: Do I mothball my cherished gear?
A: This is a personal decision you must make. Phone cameras are very good at what they are designed to do. And they are getting better. But there are still some things that require optics that phones don’t have.
Q: Do I use the phone and pretend the results are from a camera?
A: That is up to you. I dont usually advertise the camera used when I post a pic. I don’t strip metadata. so people can look if they are interested in the camera used. Sometimes I post iPhone pics, many times from my M43 kit and sometimes from my full frame DSLR (now mirrorless). Nobody has ever said “that was great but it would be better if you used a different camera.”
The camera is a recording device (tool). It is the nut behind the lens that creates. Use the tool that is best for the job.
Jan 15, 2020 23:20:05 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
bsprague wrote:
I'm a traditional photographer that has habits. I... (show quote)
i have a Galaxy s8+ and its camera is capable of capturing quite good images. The only limitation is the visibility of artifacts when printing or viewing at large sizes or when heavily cropped.
Jan 16, 2020 07:38:09 #
MrMophoto
Loc: Rhode Island "The biggest little"
If anyone thinks that a cell phone photo is less of a photo because of the equipment, check out the IPPAwards. It's an international photo contest that only accepts smart phone and tablet photos. If you use any type of desktop program you are immediately disqualified. The contest winners are nothing short of spectacular for any kind of equipment.
Jan 16, 2020 10:49:53 #
We have arrived at five full pages!
I've had fun with my smartphone frustration. Instead of the usual tone of DSLRs only, hoggers are posting that phones are worthy of use and learning. Apparently it works to be frustrated that, in comparison to a "real" camera, it can be useful. It is frustrating that it has become so good.
Besides all the "quality" photo tricks the damn thing will do, it is becoming a marvelous camcorder. That my phone can is capable of such high quality video recording AND editing may even be more frustrating. I'm going to have to force myself to learn Adobe Rush now.
I've had fun with my smartphone frustration. Instead of the usual tone of DSLRs only, hoggers are posting that phones are worthy of use and learning. Apparently it works to be frustrated that, in comparison to a "real" camera, it can be useful. It is frustrating that it has become so good.
Besides all the "quality" photo tricks the damn thing will do, it is becoming a marvelous camcorder. That my phone can is capable of such high quality video recording AND editing may even be more frustrating. I'm going to have to force myself to learn Adobe Rush now.
Jan 16, 2020 11:23:36 #
Correction:
Do I use the phone and pretend the results are from a camera?
A: That is up to you. I dont usually DO NOT advertise the camera used when I post a pic. I don’t strip metadata. Anyone can look if they are interested in the camera used. Sometimes I post iPhone pics, many times I post pics from my M43 kit and sometimes from my full frame DSLR (now mirrorless). Nobody has ever said “that was great but it would be better if you used a different camera.”
Do I use the phone and pretend the results are from a camera?
A: That is up to you. I dont usually DO NOT advertise the camera used when I post a pic. I don’t strip metadata. Anyone can look if they are interested in the camera used. Sometimes I post iPhone pics, many times I post pics from my M43 kit and sometimes from my full frame DSLR (now mirrorless). Nobody has ever said “that was great but it would be better if you used a different camera.”
Jan 18, 2020 18:29:26 #
MrMophoto wrote:
If anyone thinks that a cell phone photo is less of a photo because of the equipment, check out the IPPAwards. It's an international photo contest that only accepts smart phone and tablet photos. If you use any type of desktop program you are immediately disqualified. The contest winners are nothing short of spectacular for any kind of equipment.
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