I know the Nikon D500 (DX) is a popular camera for wildlife photographers, etc. Many of those same photographers, however, also use a full frame camera, e.g. the D850 or other models.
Here’s my question: since those full frame models also allow the option to choose a cropped frame, why the need for a second DX camera? Is it just the smaller size of the DX camera that appeals to such photographers, or is there some other reason (beyond just having a back up) that some choose to use both an FX and a DX camera?
1) A higher pixel density in the geography of the cropped sensor vs cropping the same-size image from a full-frame sensor.
2) A more robust all-weather build.
3) A higher max frames per second (fps) burst vs most of the FX bodies.
4) Lower cost vs the brand's flagship / top-tier professional full-frame models.
Four reasons one might consider the DX version of a sports / wildlife camera.
chg canon, thanks for the succinct and helpful reply.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
CHG_CANON wrote:
1) A higher pixel density in the geography of the cropped sensor vs cropping the same-size image from a full-frame sensor.
Don’t D500 {“cropped sensor”} and D850 {“full frame sensor”} have essentially same pixel density??
jwreed50 wrote:
I know the Nikon D500 (DX) is a popular camera for wildlife photographers, etc. Many of those same photographers, however, also use a full frame camera, e.g. the D850 or other models.
Here’s my question: since those full frame models also allow the option to choose a cropped frame, why the need for a second DX camera? Is it just the smaller size of the DX camera that appeals to such photographers, or is there some other reason (beyond just having a back up) that some choose to use both an FX and a DX camera?
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Full frame cameras generally are better in low light conditions. Even better with high quality fast lenses, like f2.8. The D500 may be the best crop sensor camera on the market today. It is the best low light crop sensor camera that Nikon has manufactured. It has an XQD card slot. Not, even the newly announced full frame D780 has a XQD card slot. No other DX DSLR camera has a slot for a XQD card. The D500 can get 10 fps, which is great for sports action and BIF. The D850 gets 7 fps, and can increase to 9 fps, only with an additional battery grip. Expensive too. Can you now understand, why pro and semi-pro photographers, and hobbyists, may want to own a crop sensor D500. Along with owning a top level full frame camera. Such as the D850. The D500 cameras are very affordable now, in refurbished USA models. I want a D500, but I'm building up, my.DX lenses first. One lens at a time. Then I'll get my D500. Later.
rehess wrote:
Don’t D500 {“cropped sensor”} and D850 {“full frame sensor”} have essentially same pixel density??
Yes.
In crop mode the D850 is basically a D500 with a noisier and slower shutter. The bodies are virtually identical. If they didn't have index pins the battery grips for the 2 cameras would be physically interchangeable. Contact wise that are probably different as the D850 grip accepts the EN-El 18 battery.
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jwreed50 wrote:
I know the Nikon D500 (DX) is a popular camera for wildlife photographers, etc. Many of those same photographers, however, also use a full frame camera, e.g. the D850 or other models.
Here’s my question: since those full frame models also allow the option to choose a cropped frame, why the need for a second DX camera? Is it just the smaller size of the DX camera that appeals to such photographers, or is there some other reason (beyond just having a back up) that some choose to use both an FX and a DX camera?
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THe only reason the FX cameras have the DX mode is to allow the use of DX lenses.
rehess wrote:
Don’t D500 {“cropped sensor”} and D850 {“full frame sensor”} have essentially same pixel density??
One would think that if you can pose a question in English, you are fully capable of consulting the English versions of the applicable Nikon user manuals and determining / confirming the details of this nonsensical question for yourself ... I know 'nonsensical' has a lot of syllables, try any English dictionary for that one too.
CHG_CANON wrote:
One would think that if you can pose a question in English, you are fully capable of consulting the English versions of the applicable Nikon user manuals and determining / confirming the details of this nonsensical question for yourself ... I know 'nonsensical' has a lot of syllables, try any English dictionary for that one too.
One would think you would check it out before posting your fiction as fact. Go figure?
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Bill_de wrote:
One would think you would check it out before posting your fiction as fact. Go figure?
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I wouldn't know how to say it s l o w e r or use smaller words if you've made it this far in life without understanding 19 is less than 20 .... ?
At the D850 DX mode of 5,408 × 3,600 'Large' (19.4 MP), the image resolution is almost / essentially the same as the D500. But, the fps differs and well as the cost, two other reasons an individual buyer might consider one over the other.
I personally don't get the whole "back up" camera thing. I've traveled all over the contiguous USA on a motorcycle and back then I carried one camera, a Canon A1, and never had a need for a back up camera. In my 20 years of digital photography I've never once had a camera fail. I now carry multiple cameras because of lenses, not because I feel I need a back up. The two cameras I usually carry these days are a Canon 5DIV and a Nikon D500 although I'm seriously considering substituting the D500 with a Canon 90D.
As a counterpoint, the D500 is a great wildlife/sports camera. Cheaper camera, cheaper lenses vs Fx and great results. Between the two, I have only used the Fx D850. But the 3fps difference between the two would be more of a GAS bragging point for me most of the time. I just looked for the first time at rapid bursts of pictures taken of lion cubs. Hard to imagine 3 fps would have an impact given the minimal changes in between photographs. However, my composition in wildlife photography is greatly benefited by my ability to crop in pp vs in real time like it happens with Dx shots. In almost all other aspects, beside ffp, the D850 is a better camera. More expensive camera, more expensive lenses, but extremely versatile. Both are great. You can’t go wrong.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
jwreed50 wrote:
I know the Nikon D500 (DX) is a popular camera for wildlife photographers, etc. Many of those same photographers, however, also use a full frame camera, e.g. the D850 or other models.
Here’s my question: since those full frame models also allow the option to choose a cropped frame, why the need for a second DX camera? Is it just the smaller size of the DX camera that appeals to such photographers, or is there some other reason (beyond just having a back up) that some choose to use both an FX and a DX camera?
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In a direct comparison with the D850, the pixel density is the same, the same 153 AF sensors, the build quality is the same as the D7XX D8XX full fram cameras, FPS is 10 on the D500 and 9 on the D850 when used with a battery grip, and it is smaller and lighter. What the D850 has that the D500 doesn't have is the separate AF processor for faster and more accurate AF or the ability to go to 45 mp. Otherwise they are pretty similar and one would be hard pressed to tell the difference in a cropped D850 image compared to an uncropped D500 image.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I personally don't get the whole "back up" camera thing. I've traveled all over the contiguous USA on a motorcycle and back then I carried one camera, a Canon A1, and never had a need for a back up camera. In my 20 years of digital photography I've never once had a camera fail. I now carry multiple cameras because of lenses, not because I feel I need a back up. The two cameras I usually carry these days are a Canon 5DIV and a Nikon D500 although I'm seriously considering substituting the D500 with a Canon 90D.
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Backup cameras are a necessity of life if you get paid to shoot. So are backup lenses and other important stuff. Redundancy can be important. Do you have backups of your files?
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