ggab Loc: ?

I was looking on another site this morning when I found this. It compares the Rebel T5 with the EOS 5D Mk IV.
Is it really worth spending thousands of dollars on a photography kit? The School of Photography decided to find out in an in-depth head-to-head test.

Looking at the stills, the T5 shows well.

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/expensive-pro-dslr-camera---lens-vs-cheap-amateur-dslr-camera---lens---which-is-best---34154

Enjoy.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

This is typical of article like this one...

All images are reduced to the same size. If you were offered a true comparison you would immediately see the difference.

This is akin to compare the internet posts on facebook from a cell phone with one taken from a much better camera. Quality is the same!!!! Yeah, right.

Ruthlessrider

I agree. The difference is in the detail that is apparent when you start looking at blow ups and fringe areas.

ggab Loc: ?

Did anyone look at the video?

Hereford Loc: Palm Coast, FL

To me this was mind blowing of my thoughts and likely introduced some bias for effect.

I have been an advocate of "Consumer's Reports" for many years. In recent years they have been testing cameras of all kinds, but don't test all that are out there. Again these guys also blew my mind using their criteria for testing which takes price into consideration. I will summarize their tests of 18 DSLRs a bit for you:

Rank Camera Score
#1 Sony A99 II 83
#2 Nikon D3500 81
#3 Nikon D7200 81
#4 Nikon D500 81
#5 Canon 77D 81
#6 Canon 6D II 80
#7 Canon T7i 80
#8 Nikon D7500 80
#11 Canon SL2 79
#13 Canon 5D IV 79
#14 Canon T6s 79
#15 Canon 7D II 79
#16 Canon 80D 78
#18 Nikon D5500 78

The missing # of cameras are duplicates of above using different lenses. In a separate category they also tested 37 mirrorless cameras topped by Nikon Z6 and Z7 and Fuji. If anyone is interested I could also post those.

ggab Loc: ?

I saw consumer reports as well and laughed.
I do not know the Nikon or Sony camera's so I do not include them in my comments. My comments here are targeted towards only Canon Cameras.
Rating the 6D MKII, T7i, 77D and SL2 higher than the 5D MKIV is a joke.
Since the 7D MK II is a speciality camera and so much better at it's speciality than any of the cameras above it, it's placement is a joke.

I subscribe to Consumer Reports and value their tests most of the time, however with their camera ratings they exclude criteria that photographers value and place a lot of value on criteria that I believe photographers don't use often.
What criteria you ask??
1-Construction
2-Focus system
3-Bluetooth. Who uses it?
4-WiFi. I use it sparingly and while I bought the capability for my 7D MKII, I don't use it.
5-Multiple card slots, much more valuable than GPS, WiFi or Bluetooth.
6-GPS perhaps used in entry level camera's but not in "pro" level eq.

This is an example of where I believe Consumer Reports gets it wrong.

ggab Loc: ?

The closing remarks state that if you can not take good pictures with the cheap camera you will not take good pictures with the 5D MKIV.

Something I believe we all agree on.

User ID

"Real World" ?????

Apparently parallel universes is a real thing.

ggab Loc: ?

They went out into the "Real World" and took pictures using "Real People" as opposed to using test charts.
What "parallel universe"? Sorry, another eye role

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Why is it that models always look so unhappy?

More to the point....

First set of photos is under fluorescent lighting. Canon 5D Mark IV has Flicker Free mode to handle that well and be able to mostly avoid common under-exposure problems. The T6/1200D doesn't have that feature. I bet if they took 30 shots with each camera under fluorescent, the T5/1200D would have between 1/2 and 2/3 of the images seriously under-exposed... whilewith FF enabled on the 5DIV at most one or two or so images might show any underexposure.

The 5DIV also has a self-cleaning sensor. Hope the T5/1200D user enjoys doing sensor cleanings, because it doesn't have that feature.

Try using the AF of both cameras in Live View too, for video or stills.... Dual Pixel AF on the 5DIV will blow away the slow contrast detection AF of the T6/1200D.

Go out and shoot in low light.... the 5DIV can auto focus down to -3EV (moonlight)... at least two stops lower light levels after the T5/1200D has given up even trying to focus.

While you're out shooting in the dark, which camera will be better: The ISO 100 to 6400 (expand to 12800) range of the T5/1200D? Or the 100-32000 (expand to 50, 51200 & 102400) range of the 5DIV?

T5/1200D has, what, nine AF points? With only the center one the higher performance "dual axis/cross type"?

5DIV has 61 AF points... 41 of which are dual axis/cross type.

Try auto focusing a 400mm f/5.6L + 1/4X teleconverter combo on the T5/1200D... Nope! Won't work. It'll focus on the 5DIV, though, with up to 21 of the camera's AF points.

Want a big, bright viewfinder (pentaprism, 100% image coverage, 0.71X magnification of a full frame image)? Or is a small, dim viewfinder okay (penta-mirror, 95% coverage, 0.80X mag of an APS-C image)?

Don't get caught out in the rain with the T5/1200D! The 5DIV will shrug it off.

Shoot a lot of portraits? Wouldn't it be nice to have a vertical battery grip with secondary controls that will make it more comfortable? Fit a BG-E20. That grip will also double the camera's battery capacity and the number of shots you can get before you need fresh batteries. It's CIPA rated to do 900 shots with a single LP-E6N 1865 mAh battery... so 1800 shots with two. The grip also is nice for better balance when you're using big lenses.

There's no grip available for the T5/1200D, so there's no way to increase its rating for 500 shots per charge with its smaller 860 mAh LP-E10 battery (there's also no grip is avail. for SL1, SL2, SL3, T6, T7, T7i or 77D, either... Oddly, one is avail. for T6i and T6s, T5i, T4i.)

Want a camera rated to last 200,000 shutter actuations? Or one that's rated for a 75,000 click life span?

Do you like direct access to various settings and functions like the 5DIV offers? Or are you okay having to push multiple buttons to get the basic camera settings, as necessary with the T5/1200D?

Need a top shutter speed of 1/8000? Or is 1/4000 fast enough?

Do you want 18MP images or 30MP images? Want to shoot continuously at 3 frames per second or 7 fps?

Okay with you if the buffer fills up and the camera has to pause to clear it after six shots (2 seconds)? Or would you prefer to be able to take 21 shots (3 seconds) before there's any delay (with some folks using fast memory reporting even more)?

Is 1080 HD video at 30 fps okay? Or would you rather have 4K at 30 fps, 1080 HD at 60 fps and 720p at 120 fps?

Single SD memory card slot? Or dual slots where you can use both SD and CF?

You get the point. It's a rather absurd comparison. Two very different cameras! (Maybe they should compare the T5/1200D with the 1DX Mark II or the 5DS-R instead! )

n3eg Loc: West coast USA

DPR is not much better. They rated an EOS M above the Olympus E-M5 III.
And then there's the Tony and Chelsea show, for entertainment purposes only.

ggab Loc: ?

Their point is/was:
"if you can not take good pictures with the cheap camera you will not take good pictures with the 5D MKIV".

Something I believe we all agree on.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Don't forget the self-appointed expert, Mr. Rockwell and his gigantic, over-saturated images!

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Well, you have the bragging rights and prestige of the 5D.

Of course, the 5D offers advantages over the cheaper body, and I'm sure we can all imagine what they are. Still, for taking a basic picture, almost any camera will do the job.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Working conditions.