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Dec 30, 2019 09:44:22   #
Bill 45
 
My topic "What is to be Done" has been ship out to the Attic. So much for freedom of speech.

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Dec 30, 2019 09:51:26   #
mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD
 
The First Amendment says the government can't infringe on your right to free speech. Common misconception that it applies elsewhere.

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Dec 30, 2019 09:57:12   #
Bill 45
 
After 200 + years it cove more than just government, friend.

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Dec 30, 2019 10:02:06   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Bill 45 wrote:
After 200 + years it cove more than just government, friend.


Nope. Not remotely. Your employer is free to restrict your speech while of the job (and what you say off-hours can get you fired).

Facebook, Instagram, et al all have restrictions on what you can post. Same here.

But most importantly, how is changing a line of text at the top of the page containing your message (pretty much the only effect of moving your post), affect your right to free speech???

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Dec 30, 2019 10:03:07   #
mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Nope. Not remotely. Your employer is free to restrict your speech while of the job (and what you say off-hours can get you fired).

Facebook, Instagram, et al all have restrictions on what you can post. Same here.

But most importantly, how is changing a line of text at the top of the page containing your message (pretty much the only effect of moving your post), affect your right to free speech???



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Dec 30, 2019 10:03:16   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
Bill 45 wrote:
My Topic " What is to be Done." has been move to the Attic. So much for freedom of speech.


We only have as much freedom as the government lets us have.

Did you know that the ATF can seize your house, car and other property even if they suspect you are a drug dealer? No court, no trial, no nothing.

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Dec 30, 2019 10:04:55   #
mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD
 
Bill 45 wrote:
After 200 + years it cove more than just government, friend.


What does cove mean. I'm not being rude, but you need to take a class on the constitution.

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Dec 30, 2019 10:07:01   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Bill, you've demonstrated a common misconception. The First Amendment (freedom of speech, press, religion) states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Note that Congress shall make no law part. That doesn't apply to private parties. The management of this site can, and does, limit what one can "say" here. They are not Congress.
--Bob
Bill 45 wrote:
My Topic " What is to be Done." has been move to the Attic. So much for freedom of speech.

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Dec 30, 2019 10:30:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bill 45 wrote:
My Topic " What is to be Done." has been move to the Attic. So much for freedom of speech.

You still have the SAME freedom to speak there, it's simply in a different file drawer.
Your freedom of speech has NOT been curtailed.
You just don't like where it wound up.....

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Dec 30, 2019 10:30:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
You still have the SAME freedom to speak there, it's simply in a different file drawer.
Your freedom of speech has NOT been curtailed.
You just don't like where it wound up.....

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Dec 30, 2019 10:32:54   #
Bob Mevis Loc: Plymouth, Indiana
 
No restrictions on freedom of speech. It's just been moved to a more appropriate part of the forum.

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Dec 30, 2019 10:39:32   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Chances are great, when a thread is booted to the attic, that enough snark, or sarcasm, or vitriol, or hatred, or bullying, or trolling exists in it to have offended people or the site owner.

Respectful and civil and considerate discourse is unlikely cause to move a thread there.

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Dec 30, 2019 10:47:10   #
Say Cheese Loc: Eastern PA
 
I have a site that is about RVs. If a topic like this starts I remove it before it gets nasty. If it is not about RVs it is not welcome. This is how I feel about this topic. We do not need our photo friends getting mad at each other.

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Dec 30, 2019 10:58:19   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Kozan wrote:
We only have as much freedom as the government lets us have.

Did you know that the ATF can seize your house, car and other property even if they suspect you are a drug dealer? No court, no trial, no nothing.


The “government” isn’t some independent organization that can act on its own accord. The “government” acts on, and in accord with, the laws passed and authority given by the leaders and legislators you elected. So if you don’t like what the “government” is doing take your elected officials to task in their town halls (if they show up). If you feel the “government” is acting outside the law, i.e., illegally, take ‘em to court.

Stan

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Dec 30, 2019 11:04:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
StanMac wrote:
The “government” isn’t some independent organization that can act on its own accord. The “government” acts on, and in accord with, the laws passed and authority given by the leaders and legislators you elected. So if you don’t like what the “government” is doing take your elected officials to task in their town halls (if they show up). If you feel the “government” is acting outside the law, i.e., illegally, take ‘em to court.

Stan


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