Nikkor Lens Hood Question
Dec 26, 2019 22:13:49 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
A few months ago, I bought a used AF-S Nikkor 24-120mm 1:4 G lens. My intention was to have it as a "sometimes" alternative to my 17-55mm f2.8 DX Nikkor zoom for my D500. (I also have come to enjoy using it on my D850.)
The issue is that the HB-53 hood that is designed and intended for that lens really provides only minimal protection against flare, since it has to be shallow enough to accommodate a 24mm field of view without vignetting. Of course, when I use that lens on a DX body, the hood only has be shallow enough to accommodate the field of view of a 35mm lens, meaning that a deeper hood could work just fine.
So...now the question is whether any of the members here know of a deeper Nikkor bayonet lens hood that will mount properly on that lens while providing protection down to a 35mm full frame field of view.
Thanks in advance.
The issue is that the HB-53 hood that is designed and intended for that lens really provides only minimal protection against flare, since it has to be shallow enough to accommodate a 24mm field of view without vignetting. Of course, when I use that lens on a DX body, the hood only has be shallow enough to accommodate the field of view of a 35mm lens, meaning that a deeper hood could work just fine.
So...now the question is whether any of the members here know of a deeper Nikkor bayonet lens hood that will mount properly on that lens while providing protection down to a 35mm full frame field of view.
Thanks in advance.
Dec 26, 2019 22:37:14 #
The problem with the dedicated lens hoods, is that none of the others will likely fit. I own the 24-120 f/4, but I haven't had any problems with flare at the longer end. The filter ring is 77mm, so that pretty much eliminates lens with a smaller filter size. I've tried some larger metal lens hoods @ 82mm with a 77-82 step-up ring. However, I haven't seen any "improvement" over the standard hood.
You might try a hood from another Nikkor lens with a 77mm filter size, but it's iffy that it would work with the bayonet fitting of the 24-120.
I still own both sizes of Cokin (A, P) with the adapters, and they've been successful on earlier lenses. At 77mm you'll need at least a P size, then you could experiment with the modular sections. I understand there are also Lee filter systems.
You might try a hood from another Nikkor lens with a 77mm filter size, but it's iffy that it would work with the bayonet fitting of the 24-120.
I still own both sizes of Cokin (A, P) with the adapters, and they've been successful on earlier lenses. At 77mm you'll need at least a P size, then you could experiment with the modular sections. I understand there are also Lee filter systems.
Dec 26, 2019 22:53:47 #
It seems that the manufacturers protect us
from ourselves. If all lenses of that share a
common filter thread had identical bayonet
lugs, then we idjits could too easily mount
wrong hoods to lenses.
I don't see any greedy conspiracy. Many of
my Sony lenses share a common model of
lens hood. One shape and depth serves a
few rather different lenses. Sony COULD
have messed with the attachment fittings
to make me buy more hoods, but did not.
Acoarst, as a Sony user, as with Nikons, I
share lenses across FF and APSC, and use
a narrower hood when a FF lens is on an
APSC body. My solution has been generic
threaded lens hoods.
No point in fussing over how inelegant an
approach this may seem. Lens hoods on
zoom lenses is kinda farcical anywho, so
I don't get all OCD about it :-)
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BTW I verrrrry thoroughly test lenses for
ALL possibilities of flare and if the lens is
remarkably resistant to flare, the hood
problem is moot. With zooms I only need
to test the wide end, for obvious reason.
from ourselves. If all lenses of that share a
common filter thread had identical bayonet
lugs, then we idjits could too easily mount
wrong hoods to lenses.
I don't see any greedy conspiracy. Many of
my Sony lenses share a common model of
lens hood. One shape and depth serves a
few rather different lenses. Sony COULD
have messed with the attachment fittings
to make me buy more hoods, but did not.
Acoarst, as a Sony user, as with Nikons, I
share lenses across FF and APSC, and use
a narrower hood when a FF lens is on an
APSC body. My solution has been generic
threaded lens hoods.
No point in fussing over how inelegant an
approach this may seem. Lens hoods on
zoom lenses is kinda farcical anywho, so
I don't get all OCD about it :-)
=======================
BTW I verrrrry thoroughly test lenses for
ALL possibilities of flare and if the lens is
remarkably resistant to flare, the hood
problem is moot. With zooms I only need
to test the wide end, for obvious reason.
Dec 27, 2019 05:53:27 #
Lens hoods IMO have two jobs. One to help prevent flare, (won't in every case) the other... added protection from accidentally slamming the end of the lens into something and denting the barrel and or filter rim. A hood is cheap compared to repairing the lens. I also don't use filters other than ND's, VND's or CP's, so my lens hood is always on (except for when aforementioned filters are on)...I'll flag the lens if flare becomes an issue. More for protection if for nothing else. I also own all FF lenses so I don't worry about it when a ff lens is on a DX body. Like I said, if I'm getting flare and don't want it, I take a step left or right, and or flag the incoming light which usually takes care of the issue.
Dec 27, 2019 06:15:43 #
Dec 27, 2019 06:33:51 #
Can always add to existing with 2" wide Gaffers tape, or make an extension using flat black material and tape it on with gaffers tape.
Dec 27, 2019 07:56:36 #
Dec 27, 2019 08:46:03 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
Thanks for the replies so far. I am aware that the bayonet hoods are "keyed" to the lenses they are designed for, which is a good thing, especially when we have multiple lenses that use very similar hoods. I am also aware that the "best" lenses incorporate a moving front element vs. the lens hood mount, which results in much improved performance, especially at the wide end. My hope in asking here was that billnikon or MTshooter or Herschel or perhaps someone else had discovered an "accidental option" somewhere along the way that might work for this very widely used lens. Screw-on hoods do not work well in my shooting situations.
By the way, I know that I mentioned lens flare in my original post, but the problem I actually face most often is picking up reflections from lamps in out of frame light fixtures when shooting using available light in churches and similar venues. This occasionally happens when exposing at very wide aperture settings. It's more of an occasional nuisance than a huge problem.
Again...thanks for the replies.
By the way, I know that I mentioned lens flare in my original post, but the problem I actually face most often is picking up reflections from lamps in out of frame light fixtures when shooting using available light in churches and similar venues. This occasionally happens when exposing at very wide aperture settings. It's more of an occasional nuisance than a huge problem.
Again...thanks for the replies.
Dec 27, 2019 09:21:38 #
larryepage wrote:
Thanks for the replies so far. I am aware that the... (show quote)
I would look for a deep third party tulip style screw in hood . Lots to look at on ebay 8-)
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Dec 27, 2019 09:29:26 #
larryepage wrote:
A few months ago, I bought a used AF-S Nikkor 24-1... (show quote)
I also have this lens and never use its lens hood. What I do like is the rubber lens hood from one of my old Mamiya that screws in on your 77mm filter thread and you can still add filters if needed. It is always on my 28-70 f2.8 my walk around lens. What I like (I know some don’t like it but I do) the rubbed protects against bumps and is easily adjusted to fit your needs. It folds back over itself so all you have to do is just push or pull it towards or away from the lens to prevent vegnetting on wide angle to all the way in for stowage. It is also great to rest on glass to prevent glass reflections. They are very inexpensive and last a long time, I’ve been using mine for over ten years. Remember for those that will disagree with me this is what I like and works very well for me, don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it. I attached are some poor IPad shots of it. B&H sells them anywhere from $7.00 to $45.00.
Dec 27, 2019 11:07:09 #
You might try "AliExpress" (app/Chinese shopping site- they're bigger than Amazon) browse for "lens hood"- something(s) that "appear" via image/description as though they might suit your need. Typically, they are only a few dollars and 4 weeks transit, free shipping. If you're worried about "quality," don't- Nikon hoods are made in China too...I've bought used lenses w/o a hood and found equivalent hoods there that were identical to brand name, minus the name (and 10x the price...)
Dec 27, 2019 11:56:05 #
There’s no easy answer to this, just carry two different lens hoods try to avoid shooting into the light at 24 mm. The HB 53 is actually a very Practical lens hood. You’re going to find that 24mm 120 mm is an extraordinary lens Is it NanoCrystal?
Dec 27, 2019 14:13:55 #
Dec 27, 2019 14:22:55 #
larryepage wrote:
A few months ago, I bought a used AF-S Nikkor 24-1... (show quote)
By the sounds of this, I think you're using the wrong lens shade, I have lens shades for 16mm and shorter and if a hood is a designated one, than there is simply no vignetting - period!
Dec 27, 2019 14:56:27 #
I purchased rubber lens hoods for the same reason. They work great, are collapsable can remain on the lenses. Lens cap or filters filters can be added and can be ordered for medium or long telephotos. Haven't had an issue with them on the 24-70 or 70-200. Had one on the 24-120 (since sold) used against aquarium glass to eliminate reflections.
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